Quote from: jcayabo on November 13, 2018, 11:13:06 AMI completely missed this, sorry man. No, Deca is deca and testosterone is testosterone. Both are anabolic steroids. Deca durabolin has very strong anabolic growth properties, however it's huge downside is that it will severely affect your testosterone levels, which they call "Deca-dck" and your libido basically doesn't work, but I am not sure what dosage this happens at. Anyways, this can be counteracted by using a testosterone dosage. Mostly my experience is in running steroids for muscle building, so yes 25mg/week is almost nothing compared to the dosages I'm familiar with. Mostly I am familiar with running Deca at 500mg/wk (!), I hope you're getting results out of it because I've never heard of it being used at 25mg/wk.
Here is some material to check.
https://onsteroidslab.com/deca-durabolin-cycle/
https://www.muscletalk.co.uk/test-e-deca-cycle-dosing-m1728631.aspx
thanks for the info mate! are you gonna use any suppliments for bone consolidation?
Quote from: jcayabo on November 13, 2018, 10:50:53 AMThat's basically where I am now, some days I will do 2 turns @ 90 degrees (0.5mm) or 3 turns, really depends on how painful my ankle gets. Yes I'm full weight bearing now, even walking around the downtown area of my city with a walker! After a tough first month things are really getting much easier, I feel I'm about 1/3 of the way lengthened as I'm around 2cm's now, so I think it'll be okay. And then expecting to keep my frames on for a few more months (3 maybe?) while things heal up.
Damn, I forgot you are getting the nail :)consolidation should be not much of deal if you decent callous. I would say go till 7.5-8 bro if you body and doc permits!. And yeah changing the rate as per pain is a good idea. i have read people even skip days of lengthening.
Quote from: fivetenneeded2016 on November 14, 2018, 07:12:15 PMthanks for the info mate! are you gonna use any suppliments for bone consolidation?
Right now I am running low dose testosterone ~100mg/week just to fight muscle atrophy while I'm inactive, the during consolidation I will possibly run 4IU HGH with maybe 300/300 Testosterone/Deca. I'm still a month or two away from that, so I'll still need to think about it. Also, I won't be getting a nail, I'll be consolidating fully in external frames, so it could be another 3 months on top.
Quote from: jcayabo on November 14, 2018, 08:59:31 PMRight now I am running low dose testosterone ~100mg/week just to fight muscle atrophy while I'm inactive, the during consolidation I will possibly run 4IU HGH with maybe 300/300 Testosterone/Deca. I'm still a month or two away from that, so I'll still need to think about it. Also, I won't be getting a nail, I'll be consolidating fully in external frames, so it could be another 3 months on top.
cool man! btw what us the brand for HGH? i might want to give it a try too 
I've yet to find HGH in this city, but I have used Phizer Gintropin before and it worked great, but it was expensive.
Quote from: jcayabo on November 18, 2018, 05:20:41 AMI've yet to find HGH in this city, but I have used Phizer Gintropin before and it worked great, but it was expensive.
Great Man! I would love to try it! are you sure there would be no sides?
latest xrays(month 7 post op):
http://imgur.com/a/thqvjxd
callouses look much better. Pili says i would be off frames in 3 months, so 10 month circa for around 8.5+cm(wont tell how much exactly) 
. walking is good in terms of speed and comfort. No achilles loosening i can feel, i can stand on my toes too if i try. I have been dating a while, no one can tell my proportions are wierd nked too. I feel it looks much better now, proportion wise.
Also for some alignment issue, I would have to lengthen .75cm more on left leg at .5mm a day post which final correction/compession would be done on that leg. Dr Pili is a perfectionist when it comes to alignment, thats the main reason i chose him
The other folks who lengthened with me too did similar amounts may be 1-2 cm less but 2 dint require atl as well.
This month i saw a significant callous imporvement. Apart from deca, I did these in addition to last month:
1. walked 1 hour in 4 sets of 15 mins
2. protien(60-70g) + bone broth while walking/cycling
3. calcium 500mg tablets spaced 3 hours apart, 4 times a day
4. vitamin d3, 20000IU 3 hours before first calcium dose.
things i plan to do:
1. low dose magnesium tablets
2. letrozole/hgh (planning to research soon)
3. LIPUS(yet to find under 200$ alternative for exogen)
If anyone has insights to 2,3. please let me know. I just read about letrozole, i dont know its efficacy for callous formation in cases of bone gap.
Excellent work man, looks like you're well on your way.
I'll try my best to help you with your questions.
2) I ams till trying to get a grasp and understanding about estrogen (letro) and it's effects on bone metabolism, osteoblasts, and osteoclasts. From what I am reading, you actually want to have estrogen in your endocrine system to promote osteoblasts, but PLEASE research and make sure it's correct. My sources are as follows:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_resorption
"Bone resorption rates are much higher in post-menopausal older women due to estrogen deficiency related with menopause.[7] Common treatments include drugs that increase bone mineral density."
https://courses.washington.edu/bonephys/esteffects.html
"Osteoclast apoptosis is regulated by estrogens. With estrogen deficiency, the osteoclasts live longer and are therefore able to resorb more bone. In response to the increased bone resorption, there is increased bone formation and a high-turnover state develops which leads to bone loss and perforation of the trabecular plates."
From that I am concluding that as you inhibit estrogen (main thing letro does) you have more bone loss. But, people will take letro to stop their plates from closing, allowing for growth. I'm a bit confused as well :|
3) I found this 2 month rental for a device in the UK. Is that where you're stationed?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Exogen-Ultrasound-Healing-System-Months/dp/B07G35FMPL/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1542673401&sr=8-1&keywords=exogen
Let me know what you think.
Also, as I mentioned before I'm running low dose testosterone, about 100mg/wk, maybe even less. This is to fight muscle atrophy and allow me to even gain muscle mass. A side of this is actually estrogen development, usually I run something similar to a letrozole, most bodybuilders do this to combat gynocomastea "male tits", but I've decided against it after reading similar articles such as above. As I said, I'm only running small doses. My x-rays are in my diary thread, and it sounds like I have good callous, but I'm nowhere near as far as you yet so I have time to go.
Hey man ,
I’ve been reading you’re story and I really want to thank you for sharing your experience with us.
I’m 24 years old Italian , I talked with Dr. Pili about two weeks ago , planning to do LL Tibia in September / October 2019. I am 161cm tall, and would like to add +8cm on my tibia.
I am so so nervous about it, i’m Afraid it might look unnatural 
BTW how are you ? How much time left before frames removal ?
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