I guess I should start by addressing my physical proportions:
height:~179.5cm
wingspan:~190.0cm
femur:~45.7cm
tibia:~43.2cm
First of all, know this- I am in my early twenties, witnessed the first significant changes of the internet, and in regards to this particular forum, have actually read the things most of you have written, for well over a total two years now. Still, I choose to not be active on any forums, nor do I choose to spend my time on the web, so this is my first and likely only post. However, I feel reluctant to neglect the opportunity of listening to some of your opinions right now, since very soon, I will need to take a large step in my young adult life; this step is relevant to the the subject of this forum.
I want to pursue stature lengthening through the care of Dr. Dror Paley and his team in St. Mary's Orthopedic Center in Florida. Currently, I have a scheduled consultation appointment for early May 2017.
My reasons are simple to the world, but complex to my mind. I very much believe I suffer with dysphoria from the physical aspect, but in terms of my mental health regarding other aspects of my life, I have a comfortable amount of clarity; or at the very least, I don't feel any particular desire or need to go out of my way to alter any other aspect of my life in hopes to correct anything. For further clarity, I should mention that in the two years of growing desire to pursue this, I have looked to psychological support and now security exams to determine whether there is any form of severe body dysmorphic disorder, but have come short of finding a simple mental health solution (though I feel every person should incorporate mental health fitness into their daily lives!). Honestly, overall, I am fairly content with my place in my life, but I do feel strongly that this procedure, if done without long term complications, could relieve me of my real physical dysphoria.
A little bit of background -I was a competitive athlete my whole life and I am content with withdrawing from the highest levels of fitness from here on out in my life (so as long as I could maintain at least 85 to 90% of my athletic abiltity). I was fortunate with the way I was raised -my body throughout my life so far has easily adapted to several sports, with the most recent being mountain biking. Cumulatively, I have suffered several significant injuries, ranging from broken bones to dislocations, to muscle tears, to fractures, or deep bone bruises. Comparatively, I always found my pain tolerance, flexibility, and recovery much stronger than most of my peers, growing up.
Still, I fear this surgery. My hope is to request Dr. Dror Paley for his suggestions, but if this was euphoria, and I could ask for anything I want, I would want to be 6'0.5" to 6'2". I truly do not have a number in the end, but to save the trouble of dealing with questions or concerns regarding the premise behind my desire to be within this range, I'll stop this part of the conversation here. I won't really be willing to address my reasoning much further for why. The question I was hoping to introduce, however, is:
Under the care of Dr. Paley, what are my odds of accomplishing a full (or close to full) recovery, from a 4cm to 6cm precise 2.2 bilateral lengthening within the femurs? Please consider the following things that one of Dr. Paley's assistants told me:
-Overall, with resolved complications, Dr. Paley has a 100% success rate with the precise 2 femur lengthening
-the reason why complications arose in some of the patients was due to misdirection from Dr. Paley's suggestion, either during distraction phases or consolidations phases
-most of the concerns arising throughout the limb lengthening community are from patients undergoing the limb lengthening procedures from less experienced doctors.
Finally, please note that I have no hope of pursuing something in which the harm outweighs my wellbeing, and this realization is subjective and only accurate through my knowledge, so please refrain from believing your way is the only way.
Kind regards,
kool1818
What kind of guy at 5'11 will spend over $100,000 on something that will barely make the slightest social difference and permanently damage his body? Socially, at most you'll get slightly more women who are into you, and at worst your procedure will be discovered and you'll be ridiculed, especially by other guys who will take advantage of the knowledge that you were so insecure you did something like this to yourself. You'll be a permanent beta male in their mind, even at 6'2.
Dr. Paley's assistants are lying to you about success rate, look him up on Vitals or even this site alone and you'll see with the small sample size that already disproves the claims of his assistants. Paley may be considered one of the best, but he's also 100% a salesman in that he will only be honest about the possible complications when it comes to the other doctors, but when it comes to himself he's like "You'll be fine, I'm perfect."
You will 100% regret doing this with the amount of time, money, and physical capabilities that will be sacrificed.
Dude save yourself from the time, money, pain, and possible complications from this surgery. Your at a good height. What makes you feel like you have to go through this?
I don't need to justify myself to you. or some guy named big daddy. the question I put up was regarding something else. if you have something regarding the particular question, I would love to hear it.
Quote from: kool1818 on March 26, 2017, 12:17:30 AMI don't need to justify myself to you. or some guy named big daddy. the question I put up was regarding something else. if you have something regarding the particular question, I would love to hear it.
Well good luck i guess. May I ask how you are able to afford Going to paley for this?
Objectively speaking, I don't think you'll gain much at this height from LL.
But if you really believe that your height and only holds you back and you don't go over 2 inches which is a fair safe limit (as safe as LL could be of course), then go for it.
Your athletic abilities will not be like before even if everything goes fine but you are ok with that as I saw and if everything goes ok then 85% rehabilitation is absolutely possible.
So think carefully and compare the pros and the cons of LL for you. If you really believe that it worths for you and you have enough money (because if you don't it is ridiculous to give 100k for a surgery that you don't objectively need) then go for it. After all I still believe that you can have some benefits (not many though) on your looks by becoming about 6.1 ft (which is maybe the ideal height for a man) from 5.11.
no. I'm so sorry
179 and spending 100k for some cms. So beta
standards are subjective. I think it's cool that you're expressing your ideal standards, but they might not be mine. Thank you for helping to answer my question.
If you've tried every other avenue and truly believe that limb lengthening is the only one left to address your issue with height then I would ask you to reflect thoroughly and consider one final time on the decision and throughout before you decide to undergo the procedure and the point of no return including the risk, pain, time and financial investment, physical sacrifice in terms of ability etc. but if at this stage you are still completely positive that there is absolutely no other way of ridding yourself height dysphoria and you still wish to undergo limb lengthening then I fully respect and support your decision to do so and that should be the only validation and surety you need, you have no reason to convince anyone else.
You seem lucid and coherent in the reasons you have put forth and realistic and clear on what you expect to achieve and also sacrifice by electing to undergo the procedure. I respect that you have your own specific and personal aim and have no need to discuss the 'why' any further - I would comment that your goals seem reasonable, almost conservative which is positive, as is your choice of doctor. Now, on to your question;
The odds of you having a full recovery are nil, especially for somebody involved in sport at a high level - logically, it just isn't possible. Now, recovery to a high degree of your initial capacity is another matter, I believe it is possible but rarely have seen it, possibly never to a point in which I would consider satisfactory aside from one or two cases - this may be because the vast majority of those who have undergone limb lengthening do so in a manner I would consider sub-optimal either in choice of doctor, amount lengthened, rate of lengthening etc. Take the comments made by Paley's assistants with a grain of salt but the general idea that you have a higher chance of experiencing a far more satisfactory outcome with an experienced and specialized doctor appears to hold true - though the procedure itself will affect your physical well being negatively.
On to your final point, the procedure will harm your physical well being if not to some degree permanently, then certainly to a massive degree in the short term. As you have said, it's a completely personal matter if this harm will outweigh your well being as a whole but I believe that having realistic expectations of what the procedure will do for you is important in determining this. As I said earlier, consider every negative aspect and be realistic about what this surgery means to you personally.
If you have any other questions or wish to discuss the matter further, I would be happy to answer them to the best of my ability.
Regards, 682.
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