Giotikas is pronounced "ya-tee-kahss"
nai (neh) means yes in greek. oh-hee means no.
will have IV needle in left hand early on, but the pain of it dulls over time
The road outside Montaza Hotel (one place where he sends nurses) is narrow. parked cars make it harder to see fast bikers driving by but you can hear them, prolly don't listen to music on road
peeing in hospital bed:
when lying in bed, angle penis down into bottle (awkward but better than the pee falling back at you)
first day after surgery need more effort/force to get pee out
When done: Pull penis out of pee bottle w/ a tissue, catches misc pee
asking hospital staff to empty pee bottle whenever they come is useful
good to poo before go to hospital + before see doctor if can (pooing in bed in hospital = nightmare, you just get a pail/pan/paper, don't think they have any other options until they teach you how to get to toilet)
recommend not drink the tea or coffee they give till they teach you how to go to toilet, hot liquids can trigger urge to poo
m1 macbook air/m2 macbook air = awesome for this, can lift one handed (useful w/ IV needle in one hand), long battery life, doesn't get hot. Lighter + brighter=better
sleep mask/earplugs seem to help, the hospital + hotel both near car noise
accidental clicks tend to happen when legs not straight or transferring in/out of bed or wheelchair
lip balm/chapstick, toothbrush, floss, cleaning wipes, earbuds, phone, laptop helpful to have in easy to reach backpack pocket during hospital stay, still ask for help reaching them tho
for shorts, prolly want them to be very very loose and way oversized (easier to get on/off+stretch) but have ability to tighten at top w/ drawstring to prevent it from falling down. don't put phone in loose pocket though.
hospital/hotel plain white greek yogurt very plain and almost cheese-tasting-> ask for jam/honey to add if want sweeter
look for a pack of salt w/ hospital meal, it is there somewhere, salt good w/ bread and olive oil (ask)
heavy hiccuping after surgery -> you can try drinking water, but might not help, but will cause you to pee more -> hassle in hospital bed
montaza hotel price includes breakfast buffet -> has watermelon, tomatoes, eggs, sausage, pastries, bread, orange juice, milk, plenty of calories but I'm not sure best way to fill in nutrients that this would not cover, any ideas?
first day after surgery, legs and butt touching bed hard to move, gets hot and itchy, asking them to turn on air conditioner to somewhat cool helps
first day at montaza -> check shower nozzle holder, hotel room phone, make sure work, a bit old, ask for help if doesn't work
economy supermarket nearby montaza hotel (size of 7-11 but with some produce) -> not so useful after surgery, b/c of walking distance
wolf/efood for misc groceries
Airport currency exchange = massive ripoff (lose about 25%), I think there is an ATM near montaza though, maybe get schwab debit card for ATM fee reimbursement
Have not had to use cash yet though
exoficcio black boxer briefs (forgot exact name) have been pretty good for this, light, loose, breathable, can reasonably be confused as shorts, but has useful hole for peeing
typing w/ google translate to Greek on laptop useful even for nurses who speak some limited English, its just easier for everyone for them to read greek, make the font big
biggest cost you might not have thought of? taxi. Its like 15 euros to go from montaza hotel to hospital one way
both uber and beat work, they just route you to taxis tho. And remember cost of taxi to physical therapy.
push button in uber/beat apps to share location = less headache
montaza hotel room table very small, so don't need to bring much on top of desk stuff
montaza hotel side bed table very very small but has second layer to put stuff in, don't bring too much
montaza hotel = get breakfast, help moving stuff, phone to call for help, don't have to fix things, has nurses sent there, toilet paper, desk ppl speak English, its easier for beginner travelers
to prevent bluetooth headset from disconnecting from inactivity on laptop/making annoying "disconnected sound" -> download a 24 hour long no sound black video, have it playing on laptop
hospital bed has nurse button (looks like woman in red)
def get whatsapp before trip
Anyone have any other tips or want to correct me on nething?
IV needle in my left hand, choppy sentences srry
Observations/tips two days ish after LL surgery
what else:
as of sept 2022, in athens mediterraneo hospital new entrance is down a ramp near garage
as of sept 2022, i went to floor A to find the right place
Quote from: SpeedDialer on September 14, 2022, 06:52:48 PMGiotikas is pronounced "ya-tee-kahss"
nai (neh) means yes in greek. oh-hee means no.
will have IV needle in left hand early on, but the pain of it dulls over time
The road outside Montaza Hotel (one place where he sends nurses) is narrow. parked cars make it harder to see fast bikers driving by but you can hear them, prolly don't listen to music on road
peeing in hospital bed:
Dr giotkas has a full package ,post operation?I mean accomadation,eating,etc…how much it’s cost?
when lying in bed, angle penis down into bottle (awkward but better than the pee falling back at you)
first day after surgery need more effort/force to get pee out
When done: Pull penis out of pee bottle w/ a tissue, catches misc pee
asking hospital staff to empty pee bottle whenever they come is useful
good to poo before go to hospital + before see doctor if can (pooing in bed in hospital = nightmare, you just get a pail/pan/paper, don't think they have any other options until they teach you how to get to toilet)
recommend not drink the tea or coffee they give till they teach you how to go to toilet, hot liquids can trigger urge to poo
m1 macbook air/m2 macbook air = awesome for this, can lift one handed (useful w/ IV needle in one hand), long battery life, doesn't get hot. Lighter + brighter=better
sleep mask/earplugs seem to help, the hospital + hotel both near car noise
accidental clicks tend to happen when legs not straight or transferring in/out of bed or wheelchair
lip balm/chapstick, toothbrush, floss, cleaning wipes, earbuds, phone, laptop helpful to have in easy to reach backpack pocket during hospital stay, still ask for help reaching them tho
for shorts, prolly want them to be very very loose and way oversized (easier to get on/off+stretch) but have ability to tighten at top w/ drawstring to prevent it from falling down. don't put phone in loose pocket though.
hospital/hotel plain white greek yogurt very plain and almost cheese-tasting-> ask for jam/honey to add if want sweeter
look for a pack of salt w/ hospital meal, it is there somewhere, salt good w/ bread and olive oil (ask)
heavy hiccuping after surgery -> you can try drinking water, but might not help, but will cause you to pee more -> hassle in hospital bed
montaza hotel price includes breakfast buffet -> has watermelon, tomatoes, eggs, sausage, pastries, bread, orange juice, milk, plenty of calories but I'm not sure best way to fill in nutrients that this would not cover, any ideas?
first day after surgery, legs and butt touching bed hard to move, gets hot and itchy, asking them to turn on air conditioner to somewhat cool helps
first day at montaza -> check shower nozzle holder, hotel room phone, make sure work, a bit old, ask for help if doesn't work
economy supermarket nearby montaza hotel (size of 7-11 but with some produce) -> not so useful after surgery, b/c of walking distance
wolf/efood for misc groceries
Airport currency exchange = massive ripoff (lose about 25%), I think there is an ATM near montaza though, maybe get schwab debit card for ATM fee reimbursement
Have not had to use cash yet though
exoficcio black boxer briefs (forgot exact name) have been pretty good for this, light, loose, breathable, can reasonably be confused as shorts, but has useful hole for peeing
typing w/ google translate to Greek on laptop useful even for nurses who speak some limited English, its just easier for everyone for them to read greek, make the font big
biggest cost you might not have thought of? taxi. Its like 15 euros to go from montaza hotel to hospital one way
both uber and beat work, they just route you to taxis tho. And remember cost of taxi to physical therapy.
push button in uber/beat apps to share location = less headache
montaza hotel room table very small, so don't need to bring much on top of desk stuff
montaza hotel side bed table very very small but has second layer to put stuff in, don't bring too much
montaza hotel = get breakfast, help moving stuff, phone to call for help, don't have to fix things, has nurses sent there, toilet paper, desk ppl speak English, its easier for beginner travelers
to prevent bluetooth headset from disconnecting from inactivity on laptop/making annoying "disconnected sound" -> download a 24 hour long no sound black video, have it playing on laptop
hospital bed has nurse button (looks like woman in red)
def get whatsapp before trip
Anyone have any other tips or want to correct me on nething?
IV needle in my left hand, choppy sentences srry
Quote from: Taweel on September 14, 2022, 10:45:50 PM
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front of thigh, sides of thigh, hip flexors very sore, making it difficult to do the stretches, wonder if the nurses will help me
biceps and frontal delts actually sore, probably from using them to hold my leg up for stretching + walker use + wheelchair use, not sure
lats slightly sore, prolly from walker use (effectively you are doing static dips)
wonder what food to order when get back to the hotel in a few days, prolly some veggies that are easy to prepare/eat. and also an ice cream bar.
there are clicks from the gnail device itself (a bit lower pitched but louder)
And there are what I perceive to be body clicks (from someone's actual knees or hip but not the device). appear to be quieter/higher pitched. fellow LLer at the hospital also commented on this
thinking about mordin solus from mass effect w/ this sentence structure
"I made him a steak! Focused on big picture. Too many variables"
Hi SpeedDialer
Good good diary. Love the details. I can confirm pretty much most of the sensations you described.
Keep going and stay mentally strong.
And congrats on the surgery. Worst is behind you
Quote from: OzBoy39 on September 15, 2022, 05:10:16 AMHi SpeedDialer
Good good diary. Love the details. I can confirm pretty much most of the sensations you described.
Keep going and stay mentally strong.
And congrats on the surgery. Worst is behind you
Thanks!!!
Getting on and off toilet still difficult, needed alot of help
There is a certain feeling of being anchored that is associated with being unable to get up and do some things by yourself
once I'm on a laptop, I feel mostly free/fast moving again, except for the IV left hand needle in me
in terms of pain, compared to LL, I actually thought getting a hair transplant (with numbing but no anesthesia, still awake) was more temporarily painful due to being awake during the hair transplant surgery (feeling as if being stabbed in forehead many times)
Feeling of clicking hard to describe. Not painful if muscles relaxed but feels like a deep, invasive, significant feeling which for some reason can cause the mind worry even though I know I came here to do this to click and grow taller
The moments before the click are scarier than the actual click. The stretching feeling/awkward leg positioning as you configure your legs/rotate your thighs and not knowing when the click will happen
There is something I am very curious about
When I sit upright on bed and rotate my heels upwards/inwards slightly even just 1 cm, I get the sensation as if the bed has moveable parts that are rotating upward with the feet
However, when I touch my hand to that side of the bed I know that clearly the bed on its center line on that end doesn't have flaps rotating upwards and inwards. The special hospital bed can only bend and flatten w/ the mechanical parts under it but it doesn't rotate upwards and inwards into itself.
Which means that somehow the sensation I'm feeling must be due to my legs themselves post surgery
And maybe unrelated to that--- it is odd the first few nights that when I try to sleep, my brain appears to be interpreting the overall pain/soreness of my legs as movement/my legs being moved. And so in my dreams, my whole body and especially thighs sort of move in waves or undulate or move in ways that roughly correspond to the locations of the soreness
this mostly subsided after the first night
overall, it is interesting how the pain/sensation of the thighs is causing the brain to interpret movement/spatial movement differently despite me knowing logically that my legs are mostly still/only moving slightly
More on the montaza hotel
(I'm not there now b/c in hospital, but will go back to hotel soon)
Sometimes at the foot of the bed, the teal colored stands that the bed lays on can stick out/not quite trip you but can hurt if bumped into it. Careful of knees/legs when walking around the foot of the bed. Prolly I will ask for help to push that in
The TV of the hotel (not hospital) is small and high on the wall in the corner of the room. Didn't see HDMI but maybe has VGA. Smallness and corner positioning of it mean you can basically ignore it/not use it/will prolly be much worse than just your laptop
Athens so far has had an interesting feeling. Lots of graffiti, older looking buildings, some machines in the hospital remind me the machines in the late 1990s or early 2000s that I saw in my dad's doctor's office when I was a kid. Sometimes feels like going into a time machine.
Blotches/bits of the city that look very clean and new, but most of the area I've seen around Montaza hotel evokes this feeling of buildings/pavement/concrete/outdoor stairs being heavily worn down by time, graffiti, often empty-ish feeling alleyways, yet still have some people going about their days and bringing a bit of life to it
The multiple strip clubs near montaza are a thing, though I've somehow been lucky to not have been bothered yet by their noise. Surprised to see one of them with pictures of anime girls on its front door despite the place probably having nothing anime-related inside. Plenty of smoking and ash trays around.
Sometimes see young women in the hotel who, based on how they are dressed, I surmised may be somehow associated with the multiple nearby strip clubs. Adds character and color to the experience
Montaza's rooms and spaces may seem small but the essentials are all crammed in there, it still works out. No microwave but there is something to heat water
But I also see some more touristy types from other places (an older lady from the USA (comforting to hear a familiar accent), some Spanish speakers in a group) at Montaza
I know people recommend laptop bed stands. But honestly w/ a very thin and light laptop like the macbook air I sort of prefer just having alot of little pillows around (I had to order and buy them tho) to rest the laptop on. softer, less trapping, easier to get off you
Dr. Giotikas looks to be about 6'2 tall
The two male and female nurses who work most closely with him appear to be about 6 feet and 5'7 respectively
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