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Patients who did 12cm with Betzbone

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Posted on Dec 27, 2023, 9:44 pm
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Question for old ones from this forum or for those who did 12cm with Betzbone -
I'm wondering how your legs look like, do you have any pain in knees etc?

I know that's a lot to lengthen but here is what receptionist of Dr. Becker said when I emailed them -
Our patients can gain 10-12 cm in leg length with an operation on the thighs. Approx. 8-10 cm is possible on the lower legs. You could thus achieve a total of approx. 20-22 cm in additional height in two surgeries.

8-10 cm on tibia, really? I'm not sure if they are just trying to sell their surgery or not really smart in lengthening.

I was thinking to do 10 cm on femurs and that's it then came to 8cm because it's safe.
I see lot's of people who did lengthening with Becker recently.
But how are those doing who did 10cm plus?
I'm curious how are these people doing months after the surgery because many people start their diary and then just disappear and you don't know what happened with them if they are dead or alive!
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Posted on Dec 27, 2023, 9:47 pm
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Quote from: Staystrong on December 27, 2023, 09:44:40 PMQuestion for old ones from this forum or for those who did 12cm with Betzbone -
I'm wondering how your legs look like, do you have any pain in knees etc?

I know that's a lot to lengthen but here is what receptionist of Dr. Becker said when I emailed them -
Our patients can gain 10-12 cm in leg length with an operation on the thighs. Approx. 8-10 cm is possible on the lower legs. You could thus achieve a total of approx. 20-22 cm in additional height in two surgeries.

8-10 cm on tibia, really? I'm not sure if they are just trying to sell their surgery or not really smart in lengthening.

I was thinking to so 10 cm on femurs and that's it then came to 8cm because it's safe.
I see lot's of people who did lengthening with Becker recently.
But how are those doing who did 10cm plus?
I'm curious how are these people doing months after the surgery because many people start their diary and then just disappear and you don't know what happened with them if they are dead or alive!
I haven't lengthened with them, I'm sure you'll get replies from those who have, but those numbers are contradicted by pretty much every reputable LL doctor, I'd be very careful with them. 8-10 cm tibia is preposterous, 7.5 is the absolute max I've heard done and generally 5 cm is given as the safety limit. Telling you you can achieve 20-22 cm of height increase is LiveLifeTaller/Wannabetaller-levels of shadiness.
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Posted on Dec 27, 2023, 10:35 pm
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Quote from: Kintaeryos on December 27, 2023, 09:47:16 PMI haven't lengthened with them, I'm sure you'll get replies from those who have, but those numbers are contradicted by pretty much every reputable LL doctor, I'd be very careful with them. 8-10 cm tibia is preposterous, 7.5 is the absolute max I've heard done and generally 5 cm is given as the safety limit. Telling you you can achieve 20-22 cm of height increase is LiveLifeTaller/Wannabetaller-levels of shadiness.

Yes, but that's Germany! Not Turkey.
It's interesting, I didn't see very bad cases from Betz-Becker on this forum
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 12:13 am
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Paley said in his recent interview (timestamp 1:00:00 to 1:03:00 https://www.youtube.com/live/i8eVt0r1xoI?si=63v46GYv5aUtY7ty) that any doctor promising stuff beyond 6 cm femur and 4 cm tibia should be avoided. I dont know how Betz and Becker let patients lengthen this much in good conscience but as Paley is probably the most experienced in this field I’d listen to him on this.
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 12:39 am
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Quote from: TheDream on December 28, 2023, 12:13:34 AMPaley said in his recent interview (timestamp 1:00:00 to 1:03:00 https://www.youtube.com/live/i8eVt0r1xoI?si=63v46GYv5aUtY7ty) that any doctor promising stuff beyond 6 cm femur and 4 cm tibia should be avoided. I dont know how Betz and Becker let patients lengthen this much in good conscience but as Paley is probably the most experienced in this field I’d listen to him on this.

Didn't Paley used to promise 8cm femur not too long ago?
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 1:52 am
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Quote from: 1team on December 28, 2023, 12:39:37 AMDidn't Paley used to promise 8cm femur not too long ago?

From what I know Paleys line is the same as Birkholtz’ which is not to promise over 6 cm but to evaluate the patient at that point and see if they can try for 7 cm. Then again at 7 cm to evaluate them again and see if they can push for 8 cm as the final max.

If it was different before i do not know.
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 2:21 am
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But still guys, I've seen 2 diaries and those guys did 12cm femur however they stopped updating us.. I'm wondering how are they now. Can they walk normally? Another patient did 10.5 with LON (in Turkey) seems like he was fine, he is in Instagram and that company is advertising themselves with his videos. I would say 10 is max but still... 12 is like crazy.
The question is - how safe Betzbone is if they advice 8-10cm tibia and 12 femur. insane amounts!
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 4:03 am
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Yeah there was one dude who did 12cm on femurs with Dr. Becker:

https://www.limblengthening/threads/betzbone-surgery-dr-becker-january-2023.5/page-5

Still seems to be recovering and working through it a year later which is to be expected when lengthening that much.
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 4:16 am
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Quote from: GrowGrow123 on December 28, 2023, 04:03:49 AMYeah there was one dude who did 12cm on femurs with Dr. Becker:

https://www.limblengthening/threads/betzbone-surgery-dr-becker-january-2023.5/page-5

Still seems to be recovering and working through it a year later which is to be expected when lengthening that much.
I'm curious if he will fix his lordosis.
Can you image to stay like that?
On the last video from September 15th when he walks without crutches, he looks very disabled
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Posted on Dec 28, 2023, 8:41 am
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Quote from: GrowGrow123 on December 28, 2023, 04:03:49 AMYeah there was one dude who did 12cm on femurs with Dr. Becker:

https://www.limblengthening/threads/betzbone-surgery-dr-becker-january-2023.5/page-5

Still seems to be recovering and working through it a year later which is to be expected when lengthening that much.
12 cm on femurs? Jesus
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