4 pages of journal and no walking vids or photos bro? Thats like having a burger with nothing on it..lol.. JK.. In all seriousness though, any photos or vids? theirs ways to block out your face, etc.
Wow at over 6 feet now that is major!! Thank you for documenting your journey with Precise. So you are not taking any vitamin D supplements during lengthening at all? Doesn't a fast bone growth rate mean that you are very healthy? I am mainly asking because it sounds like Precise patients in particular seem to have a higher daily lengthening rate compared to other methods from what I have read online. Like more days of lengthening in excess of 1mm which I believe is not safe depending on how many days and weeks and has more overall long term negative effects like nerve damage and mobility issues. Anyway, it must feel great to have come so far in your journey and you did it with Precise too! The best is yet to come my friend.
Quote from: Growing on August 30, 2021, 05:17:18 AM4 pages of journal and no walking vids or photos bro? Thats like having a burger with nothing on it..lol.. JK.. In all seriousness though, any photos or vids? theirs ways to block out your face, etc.
Well I’m still lengthening and also prefaced this journal saying it’s unlikely I would post many or any before-afters. I’ll probably be gone from the forum once I’m consolidated and walking again (since I won’t have another surgery ever and because lots of… strange people here). I will probably do a before-after picture once I’m consolidated though. Right now it makes my legs look long because they’ve atrophied so much. But proportionally its actually very normal, 48% inseam ratio now. I fit into 32 jeans at 6’0 so I’d call that fairly normal proportions
Quote from: ActionSpeaks on August 30, 2021, 08:11:28 AMWow at over 6 feet now that is major!! Thank you for documenting your journey with Precise. So you are not taking any vitamin D supplements during lengthening at all? Doesn't a fast bone growth rate mean that you are very healthy? I am mainly asking because it sounds like Precise patients in particular seem to have a higher daily lengthening rate compared to other methods from what I have read online. Like more days of lengthening in excess of 1mm which I believe is not safe depending on how many days and weeks and has more overall long term negative effects like nerve damage and mobility issues. Anyway, it must feel great to have come so far in your journey and you did it with Precise too! The best is yet to come my friend.
Yeah I had a huge vitamin D surplus before surgery, so I’ve been skipping some doses of the pills. I don’t recommend it to the average person though. I’ve always healed very quickly from injuries etc. right now my bone growth without it is very solid but that’s also because my naturally very high Vitamin D levels which I doubt most people here would have.
Precise patients have the same lengthening schedule as Stryde, you might be thinking of LON or something. Precise and Stryde both go at 1mm or less a day. I do 1mm a day most days but once a week I skip a session, so I’m doing 6.66mm a week.
By the way, as I’m days from hitting 8cm, if I disappear for a while it’s not because I had some sort of catastrophic breakdown or injury, I’m just happy with my new height and not neurotic enough to visit this forum anymore. I suspect most stories that fizzle like this one might are like that. As I reach past 6 feet tall I simply just have no neurosis and even feel super tall, and while I like helping give advice to people here, there are a lot of neurotic people on this forum and it’s not mentally good for me to be around the negativity now that I have such a positive life ahead of me. That being said there are some great people on this forum I hope I’ve helped with their prospective or ongoing journeys, many of whom are regulars in this diary thread. Thanks for checking in and I’m glad this has been helpful so far!
I will still set calendar reminder each month to post here but I don’t browse as often now that I’ve reached my height and I’m happy and healthy. I am definitely so far a very successful patient. Dr D says so, the PTs all say so, and my appearance says so. If there’s a complication I won’t hide it and will 100% post it here, but I’m kind of getting to the point where if one would have arisen I’d have it already. I don’t have duckass, bad knee extension, or nerve issues… only occasional knee pain here and there but it’s a 1 out of 10 on the pain scale and should go away even before consolidation.
I will still post a before and after heavily blurred once I can stand and walk on my own a bit more and the atrophy has reversed a bit. But if I disappear it’s because things were a success. I’ll be back here again if there was a failure, I feel the ethical need to do so if there are issues. But silence will only mean one thing, that I’m healthy and happy. Or dead, but not from this 
Thanks for all the sharing, HobbitMan! It should go without saying that you don’t owe anyone anything here and I for one can appreciate that it could be very taxing to try and answer all possible questions; or just deal with a barrage of strange and personal requests. I hope to follow your success, but not as high since you got me from the jump by several centimeters. Imagining the burden of no longer thinking about height neurosis must be exhilarating and I very much look forward to experiencing that same freedom in the future. I wish you a happy, successful and taller life. Thanks again and good luck moving forward. 💪 - Cheers
Thank you for making a diary here and sharing your experience with LL. Glad to hear your LL has been cured with this surgery and hope all the best did you in the future
Good to hear that you're happy with your height
Thanks for sharing and best of luck with recovery!
Thanks for the good luck everyone! I’ll still be around intermittently but there probably be a day where the journal abruptly ends. Not today at least 
For those I helped I would love to answer more questions over the coming week and I think I left some unanswered, feel free to dump any questions in here again and I’ll try to get to the ones that mean most to everyone.
To answer one of them, I’m still completely reliant on the walker, but my fingers are crossed I’ll have a quick consolidation and be taking first steps in October. Less than a week away from the final day of lengthening! Things are tighter now but it’s never much worse than it was at say, 4cm. I wouldn’t go past 8cm even if I could but I’m sure my body could handle it with extensive PT.
Hey HobbitMan - Good to hear you’re basically at the tail end of lengthening. I did have a few questions, but of course answer only if you want to. So, here goes:
1. With Precice 2.2, it seems to me that it is a balance between doing as much weight bearing within the nail’s limit to help with bone regenerate formation and yet not doing too much weight bearing for fear that the nail will bend or, god forbid, break. Is that correct? And, are you encouraged to do your rehab that way by pushing the weight bearing so as to promote good bone formation and hopefully expedite the consolidation phase?
2. How hard are stairs? I have a recovery environment where I plan on doing most of the lengthening after surgery but it has stairs. I can limit some of it, but there is just no avoiding it altogether. What has your experience been with stair environments and how scary is it in terms of f’ing up the nails? My worst fear is that even though I think I am limiting weight bearing it would only take a misstep and I’d bend the nail.
3. How effective has outside PT with someone who may not be specifically trained for LL been vs. doing rigorous rehab on your own? [Not suggesting anyone could just skip out on the outside PT, but curious about the relative returns from someone like you has in terms of how effective outside PT has been vs. your own rigorous rehab]
4. What is the one thing you know now that you have been through the journey that you most under appreciated or didn’t realize would be as challenging during CLL?
Again, thanks for all the sharing along the way, which has been helpful and much appreciated and good luck with getting the last bit out of that nail! 💪😁
I saw your post and wasn’t going to log on tonight to answer until tomorrow… until I saw your question about stairs. I feel I am about to save you a lot of pain and misery by answering that question and I feel ethically required to give you the best advice possible as soon as possible.
1. My PT sessions and rehab didn’t feature that much weight bearing. By putting 150-160lbs down directly (75-80 per per nail… I NEVER took a single step and won’t for a while, without offloading at least half my weight, because that’s a one step trip to a broken nail) that might have helped bone generation, but vitamin D high doses and protein will do a bigger job of it. It’s actually better to take a lot of vitamin D and eat chicken breasts without getting up from bed, than to eat crap and weight bear a lot, for good bone formation. I recommend being safe and relying more on vitamin D and nutrition as a baseline. My bone growth is very average which is exactly what someone should want — no risk of mal-Union or early consolidation. PT was and should be for your exercises and stretches sitting down or laying down or on a stationary bike that promote muscle laxity. The hamstrings and quads and to a lesser extent the sciatic nerves are the biggest obstacles for a healthy young male much more than bone growth. Bone growth won’t be an issue for the average young healthy male. For women it can be a bigger concern.
2. DO NOT USE STAIRS
Any surgeon will cringe if you even mention stairs. You cannot traverse them without putting almost all weight on one leg. Even if you’re a skinny 17 BMI short guy which I assume you aren’t at 171cm, it is still dangerous on the nail. In particular your leg muscles will be SO TIGHT that you have ZERO coordination. For the love of god don’t use even one stair until you can walk easily after consolidation, that could be 8 months. It is not worth the risk. I strongly suggest you look into stair lift machines, like the ones old people have. compared to cost of surgery or revision if you bend a nail, it’s cheap. Please get a stair lift. If you can’t, then you must find some way to avoid stairs. You will have a revision surgery if you incorporate stairs, 100%. I had one and it was a nightmare.
3. A great PT will be confused about the intricacies of CLL but many have been trained on internal and external fixators and broken femur cases. Youd be surprised how quickly they will adapt to what you need if you are vocal and your surgeon gives them the right info. My PT had never seen a case like mine but he was within a week doing a great job on my specifics, doing Range of Motion measurements weekly, etc.
4. Honestly, it’s a few things. The first is just how little I bathe now. Showers standing up are always a dance with chance, they’re very dangerous and I rarely do them. Baths are better but not everyone has the luxury of a bath tub. They’re also hard as hell to get in and out of. So I probably wash myself only once or twice a week.
You wake up every morning very sore but this disappears as you get up and move and/or take pain killers. I actually recommend taking a good dose of painkillers since they will allow you to get rid of the pain that would keep you from stretching as rigorously as you need to. Downside is that they’re often opiates which are addictive and slightly mind altering which might affect your job or general sense of being.
I probably only go outside a few hours a month so this is the first summer I haven’t had a tan.
Peeing at night is extremely annoying so I recommend portable urinals. They last 2 weeks each before they start smelling horrific, as long as you wash them out each morning. Keep one near your bed.
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