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Posted on Dec 13, 2016, 11:50 pm
#681

Quote from: Iamready on December 13, 2016, 05:56:51 PMand I don't want to become some case study that people constantly want pictures of to scrutinize.  Try and see this from my perspective.

Good point. That's why I don't post any pics at all. People will tell you look good, but in other threads use your case as a "freak case", see Apo. And the only reason they do it is to justify and rationalize their own lesser lengthening goals - it makes sense, as no one really wants to go through 3 fking surgeries, but still people on these forums are arrogant as fk. Who cares sharing anything with them. Let them enjoy their one-step lengthening with leg segment disproportion and messed up leg biomechanics.

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Posted on Dec 14, 2016, 1:45 am
#682

Yeah, same here I get that sentiment. Knowing me, you know how much I worry about the proportion sort of thing, and often times I forget that there's an actual person who's willingly sharing his image to us. So to that, in my case— apologies.

In terms of the pic, I will say I am surprised at how natural it looks. Congrats on that!

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Posted on Dec 14, 2016, 2:29 am
#683

Thanks brother for the no-fluff description of the pain. I'm looking into lengthening and have been creeping on both forums for a year now. The one thing I'm worried about is pain and it sounds like a painful procedure breaking both legs and whatnot. I've seen the pain get described as an 8/10 here before so that's something that I think is individual to the person undertaking the procedure.

Do you think you would've had less pain if you did one segment at a time, or was it the fact that you did quadrilateral lengthening play a part in the pain for you?

Thanks,
-FiveSix

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Posted on Dec 14, 2016, 6:00 pm
#684

Well,i completely respect your opinion about it.Thank you for every previous pic and video.Also thanks for making a great diary.

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Posted on Dec 18, 2016, 5:11 am
#685

Hey Iamready (or anyone else with insight into this question):

I am wondering what your thoughts are on level of pain comparing tibias to femurs. I have heard repeatedly on this forum that tibias are considerably less painful than femurs. I figure you would have good insight having both done. Perhaps yours may not be the best comparison, however, since you did them back to back, and were already in recovery mode during the second surgery.

Nonetheless, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of pain.

Pain represents the stress response of the body. Overwhelming pain can certainly affect probability of recovery. I have been a doctor for over a decade (not orthopaedic). In medical school, we are taught that the only 3 areas of the body that can lead to fatal bleeding are abdominal injuries, closed head injuries, and bilateral femur fractures. I feel that breaking the femurs would be dramatically more stressful on the body than the tibias. This could explain the reports of less pain and better sleep for those undergoing tibias.

Thoughts would be appreciated from those who have gone through either procedure.

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Posted on Dec 23, 2016, 7:53 pm
#686

I would say Tibias are more painful. It's 2 bones you are breaking instead of 1. Also the physical therapy we had to go through could get very intense at times. The third reason is that we were required to wear dorsiflexion boots st all times which were incredibly uncomfortable. I had to get custom boots made because of how painful they were on my wide feet.

Also during recovery the femurs recovered quickly and I had no signs of pain in that region. However the ankle pains linger from the tibia operation and have just recently began to subside.

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Posted on Dec 24, 2016, 8:28 am
#687

So today concludes my very painful arm lengthening.  I should be at 5cm each arm, i'll have to wait for x-rays to confirm; the exact number doesn't really matter at this point.  I wouldn't say the actual lengthening was painful, it was first the trauma from the surgery, and the swelling.  Then as soon as that cleared I developed pain in my shoulder region and right after returning from my flight from Florida and starting my antibiotics, the pain traveled to the area between the shoulder and neck and was truly unbearable.  I didn't sleep for a few days because lying down would trigger the pain and being active would get rid of it.  So i stopped lengthening and stretched a lot for a few days until the neck pain went away.  What remained was the shoulder pain and the difficulty sleeping. I'm not sure exactly why laying down would trigger the shoulder pains but it always happened at night and it was horrible.  Some days I fell asleep sitting up on my bed while staring at the wall.  I would wake up every 15 minutes and pass out like that over and over. 

Unlike my leg lengthening, I had no flexibility issues.  At no time during the lengthening did I lose the ability to hyper-extend my arm and I never felt any numbness or loss of finger strength. 

What I think of the results: I'm thrilled. Totally exceeded my expectations.  After doing mock ups, I thought that I would have to stop early, 3-4cm because I would feel self conscious of my humerus to forearm ratio, but at no point did I look at my arms and think they looked worse off than what I started with.  It was where my hands fell on my body that I was unhappy with and when I hit 4cm I looked at photos of myself and knew I needed to continue.  After examining how long my humerus looked in various different poses I proceeded to lengthen to 5cm. 

Before lengthening my arms I didn't feel comfortable in anything but flat shoes, but now i'm back to wearing normal athletic shoes and soon enough i'll break out the old boot collection.  I am glad I wore flat shoes for the first few months though, because they helped me recover.  Learning to walk essentially barefoot is a lot more difficult than having the assistance of a cushioned shoe, and I attribute that to getting on my feet quicker than expected.

Having said all this, this journey has been extremely personal; I did the arm lengthening for myself.  No one noticed my proportions being off before my arm lengthening, but it was something that nagged at me and the satisfaction of the collective journey is finally hitting me.  Unfortunately, the first time standing in front of the mirror after having lengthened my femurs and tibias was unsettling.  I was upset at myself for not thinking about my arm length, but I knew I was being a brat because I had achieved my dream of getting taller.  Despite my efforts to forget about the issue that I had fabricated, I knew eventually I would want to lengthen my arms.  But it was tough, because there was so little information to go off of and no reference photos besides a music video of Apotheosis.  Even though I was excited to get my humerus lengthened there was a part of me that was nervous of how I would feel about the result.  Would I only be able the lengthen a little? Would that be enough? Would I develop another complex?  So many questions clouded my ability to appreciate that I was going to fix what was bothering me.

Well, now I stand in front of the mirror completely content with how I look.  Some of you mentioned at 4cm how surprised you were at how natural it looked.  My honest opinion is that I can tell, and it's not so much that it looks natural, it just doesn't look wrong.  It looks good, and especially for having gained 2 inches in a segment of the arm.   I'm still a bit puzzled at how I was able to pull it off without having to stop myself, but I won't complain. 

Lastly, one thing I learned from this journey is that I am a little crazy.  I can't lie to myself anymore about this.  It's a shame I couldn't just be grateful with the 4.5 inch gain in my height and just continue on with my life.  But things didn't turn out that way and I felt the need to take things a little further by lengthening my arms.  I hope you guys realize that there are people who have lengthened as much as I did and were happy without arm lengthening.  This isn't a requirement, it's just the choice I made.

I really hope this diary helped you guys out and provided some insight in the complete limb lengthening journey.  Please remember when posting on this message board; this is a place for information and for support.  Don't tear each other down, help each other grow.

Peace

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Posted on Dec 24, 2016, 9:13 am
#688

Congrats man. You made one hell of a journey. You truly are the 1 million dollars man haha.
. Wish you a speedy recovery and afterwards to just move on from this chapter in your life. Good luck mate:)


P.s in the future whenever you will feel like it, a full body pic would be interesting to see. I admit i just want to see it out of pure curiosity

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Posted on Dec 24, 2016, 11:26 am
#689

Great update man,Thanks!

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Posted on Dec 27, 2016, 1:09 am
#690

Many congrats to you for what you have gone through. I have been completely at odds to consider a single 5 cm LL (which I am still not sure if I will ever undergo). Yet here you are, accomplishing 3 separate LL within a 2 year period. It is really quite remarkable, and a demonstration of both craziness and bravery  Quadrilateral Lengthening with Dr. Paley

Congrats on your journey. Wishing you the best of success in your recovery. You deserve it.

Happy holidays to everyone reading this as well.

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