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Posted on Jul 6, 2016, 3:22 pm
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Did you sign a contract before you paid thousands & thousands to someone you don't really know, for a dodgy surgical procedure, in a foreign jurisdiction? Or was it just a, "Gentlemen's agreement..." I'm curious

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Posted on Jul 6, 2016, 4:50 pm
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CCMidWest - I had a contract for the extension that was built on my house. Getting my legs done is a much bigger deal. If things go wrong? If I have a dispute? How do you prove exactly was actually agreed, or obtain satisfaction? Doctors are service providers. Reputations? My BS detector twitches at such rhetoric. Call me a cynic...

Penguinn - of course, finding a top doctor is a given... Have you lengthened yourself? What arrangements did you make, matey?

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Posted on Jul 6, 2016, 8:11 pm
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Me again.

Has *anyone* exchanged anything more formal than emails prior to lengthening? There are more Regs for getting your Sheep slaughtered at home than going abroad for LL! Would you buy property, a business, a car, in Italy, Germany, India, wherever, on the basis of some emails? Do even know how their medical & legal systems work (or even your own, for that matter?). Your flight has a contract. Your surgeon has a contract with their local hospital. Why would you go under the knife without one? Do you know what your legal rights are if it doesn't work out? I don't, which is why I'm asking... So, speak up. Tell me to shut up if you like, but do it from an informed position...

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Posted on Jul 6, 2016, 9:23 pm
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Oh Dear. Good Heavens... what am I getting myself into... Bigfaker, do you ever look back & feel, like, giddy? (1st edit - wasn't my choice to leave the EU. I'm devastated. I'd rather leave England...)

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Posted on Jul 7, 2016, 11:12 am
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Thx Kilokahn & Bigfaker for confirming what I suspected. A signed consent form & medical notes are what a Doc obtains to cover his/her Ass against future criticism or legal penalties. Any secondary benefit they provide to the poor Patient is accidental & definitely not what those bits of paper are all about. I know. I am one (a Doc & a Patient). What ought to happen but often doesn't is this: The Doc should sign a contract with the patient that describes terms & conditions related to the patient's fees & the patient's health. Part of that should be a summary of his bona fides, e.g., his qualifications, surgical stats & malpractice insurance (all independantly verified) & an outline of risks & complications, e.g., what might happen, how it will be sorted if it does & who will pick up the tab?

To assume that the doc is honest/competent/honourable a priori, is an error. Consider dating, if you will: both parties refrain from revealing any negatives. They think they love each other... It is usually after the marriage or the deal — when it is impossible or extremely difficult to undo a transaction — that negatives come to light.

It's a lot easier to sort out with a prenup...

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Posted on Jul 7, 2016, 12:51 pm
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QuoteAin't that the truth. I have negatives about me that I didn't even know I had until she told me AFTER the marriage.

LOL!

QuoteGoing back to topic. I just sent my daughter through a bunch of surgeries in the US, and I don't remember any contract, other than the one saying I had to pay them later or they'll take my house. But nothing about the surgery outcome or a fee schedule. Had no idea what it/they cost beforehand, other than a ballpark figure of $50k-$100k total. They always said they wouldn't know until all the medical billing codes came through, post operation(s).

A short form about risks, especially with the anesthesia, a medical history form, emergency contact form, legal guardian form because she is a minor, a form saying the surgical hospital had no liability. Nothing about qualifications other than the sh*t hanging on her office wall.

I know, CCMidwest, I know. Every patient in the (real as opposed to my) world has a sign pointing to his Ass that says, "Insert the rough end of the Pineapple here..."

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