Risks/Complications Of LL

LATN was the method of choice by Dr. Rozbruch for many years and he was quite the evangelist, before the advent of Precice of course.

As a reminder Precice was cleared by the FDA in 2011, the improved 2.0 version in 2014, so LATN is relatively contemporary. Here's some research by Dr. Rozbruch, you can read the Abstract and Discussion sections for the pros and cons compared directly against classic Ilizarov.

Thanks man

The patellar tendon is split and pulled apart to make a path for the nail to go into the tibia.  Studies have shown 25% of patients who've had this done end up with permanent discomfort in their knees.

then why you did LON?

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Good question ! If there is a risk of permanent pain or discomfort with LON/LATN why people still do that ?

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Good question ! If there is a risk of permanent pain or discomfort with LON/LATN why people still do that ?

They don't want to spend a year with frames on their legs, but don't have money for internal femurs.

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I think if u keep the lengthening in moderation everything will be fine

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All you people think 5 cm guarantees you safety, lol. That is stupid. Take APO the god for example, lengthened 20 cm and now runs, plays sports and recovered completely to the extent that he can function like he did before. Then there are many people who did 5 cm and got fked up. Its about how dedicated you are and physical therapy along with the safe precautions. At the end of the day its also about luck. Lengthening is individual for everyone so stop posting this crap about how 5 cm is safer than 6 cm.

Taller in Kiev is another perfect example of someone who lengthened 11cm in his femur and Im sure hes doing better than most people here who haven't even underwent the surgery yet. If anyone cares to notice what Taller in Kiev and APO had in common was they were both motivated and had belief and of course didn't go to butchers. CLL is a different experience for everyone.

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Yea and we are going to take some medical advice over some loser on here. You are not a doctor.

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All you people think 5 cm guarantees you safety, lol. That is stupid. Take APO the god for example, lengthened 20 cm and now runs, plays sports and recovered completely to the extent that he can function like he did before. Then there are many people who did 5 cm and got fked up. Its about how dedicated you are and physical therapy along with the safe precautions. At the end of the day its also about luck. Lengthening is individual for everyone so stop posting this crap about how 5 cm is safer than 6 cm.

Taller in Kiev is another perfect example of someone who lengthened 11cm in his femur and Im sure hes doing better than most people here who haven't even underwent the surgery yet. If anyone cares to notice what Taller in Kiev and APO had in common was they were both motivated and had belief and of course didn't go to butchers. CLL is a different experience for everyone.

Hey man you say Apo. Do you read the Dr. Betz Asian patients  lengthening from170to 179 in makemetaller forum? He said if stop 7cm everything would be better and you could see what he suffer after 2years for the surgery.

Do you read tall' dairy (Dr. Betz patients)? He would not advise anyone over 7.5cm in femur form his experience. The risk and time losing is over the gain.

Do you read many 8cm Precice femur patients in this forum? Most of them just do not satisfied with the result.

 7.5cm patients in South Africa and 7.5cm up Penguin said 7.5cm in femur is fxcking dangerous.

Do you read crazy+6 diary(external tibia and femur) Do you see his picture?

Do you read Jim, android, pope dairy? They are all Dr. Solomin's patients in Russia.
Why do you think they stop 9-10cm totally in femur and tibia or 6cm in femur?
They are close to your height. Do they want more cm? I think sure but they are smart to stop.
Do you think your are so special and different from others that you can handle 13 cm in femur and tibia with Lon?

All you people think 5 cm guarantees you safety, lol
people say it's less risky, not guaranteed safatey (unfortunately)

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Why does everyone on here hate Dr M? He was one of my considerations, and now after reading this forum I'm having second thoughts!

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All people says, max 5cm for tibia but doctors in Turkey says
No problem 7-8 cm for tibia.

I dont understand who is telling the truth.
Why would these doctors say that?

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 I am a 23 year old male planning my LL experience for the near future. I became aware of my neurosis and discovered this site at the age of 16.

No disrespect to anyone who has used methods that may seem outdated now, but the newer technology (stryde) appears to have a different set of risks than that of the old. I'm not saying people who have had surgery done in 2007 with LON shouldn't be forewarning new users and new prospective patients, however, I think when listing risks it is important to understand more modern technologies are continuing to develop that allow for a smoother experience - and possibly a different set of long term medical complications or drawbacks.

I am also of the mind that none of us would be on this website if we didn't think that the benefits outweigh the negatives. All we have is hope and educated decisions to make with respect to doctors and techniques. My goal is to go with Conway or Paley using stryde. I plan to use all supplements vitamins, pre-stretching, and I've even read some interesting topics on stem cells. Bottom Line is if you are warning others to not undergo this surgery while at the same time enjoying the aspects of your gained height - the message is always going to be distorted.

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I am a 23 year old male planning my LL experience for the near future. I became aware of my neurosis and discovered this site at the age of 16.

No disrespect to anyone who has used methods that may seem outdated now, but the newer technology (stryde) appears to have a different set of risks than that of the old. I'm not saying people who have had surgery done in 2007 with LON shouldn't be forewarning new users and new prospective patients, however, I think when listing risks it is important to understand more modern technologies are continuing to develop that allow for a smoother experience - and possibly a different set of long term medical complications or drawbacks.

I am also of the mind that none of us would be on this website if we didn't think that the benefits outweigh the negatives. All we have is hope and educated decisions to make with respect to doctors and techniques. My goal is to go with Conway or Paley using stryde. I plan to use all supplements vitamins, pre-stretching, and I've even read some interesting topics on stem cells. Bottom Line is if you are warning others to not undergo this surgery while at the same time enjoying the aspects of your gained height - the message is always going to be distorted.

I completely agree with what you say. It's like putting candy in front of a child and telling him that if he eats it he can have cavities haha Anyone who is informed a little (I for example a few months alone) knows perfectly the risks it has and what complications it can have from the non-union of the bones to thrombosis or permanent damage.

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I think what we all should keep in mind is that we are sacrificing athletism, money, potential permanent risks, and time in order to gain height. The only one who can decide if it is worth it is yourself!

However, regardless of the method, so long as you are breaking bones. It WILL hurt. If you don't have support, it WILL be very dificult. Everything depends on your mental fortitude and being aware that you could lose everything in any moment.

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What you are saying is quite terrible but sadly most LL patients probabely feel this way. To be at a place in your life where you are willing to do this means you probabely have height neurosis and are suicidal. However I am very blackpilled on life and believe genetics is destiny and height is tied to success.

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The one's that actually go through it in the states at least are in my opinion, much more reasonable than just thinking "height is everything" They just have a neurosis and insecurity and complex that lowers their quality of life, but the ones that are suicidal in my opinion are not the ones who actually can afford LL, at least not in the USA. These are too busy in their head. The ones who simply have a big neurosis but otherwise are competent in life (and successful sometime) are the ones who can afford to throw 100 grand at a surgeon. I'm sure they have had a deep depression sometime in their life though regarding height, im sure all of us on this forum has had. However The ones in their basement continually weeping sadly and believe they are unemployed due to height, are a NEET solely because of their stature, unfortunately have a very miscontrued mentality, are probably never going to even have the money for LL. I feel for everyone though, neurosis can be very serious or minor and there was certainly moments where I have thought height means the entire world and I'm sure I'll feel that way too in the future.

it comes to the point where people are just tired of living their life with neurosis- not necessarily suicidal. but definitely something close to a depression which is really not that much better. some people do have minor neurosis and get this also.

a few months or a year of suffering and pain is worth it to cure a neurosis. anyone who thinks LL has no negatives is in their head and confused. the ones who do LL realize that it does have negatives, but it is worth it. the journey of LL is a hard one not just physically but mentally and more than enough diaries i have read where the person was isolated in a foreign country and depressed during lengthening. It is tough. It is sad. But I commend everyone who has to courage to go through this if they think they need this to just kill that neurosis and sound in their head. i respect all of you guys. i dont respect the people who think certain peoples don't have a valid neurosis simply because of their height though. I would be confused at a 5'5 women getting LL, but I will not judge. Because I know they also have suffered similar, just by virtue of being on this limblengtheningforum site you have suffered enough and want to change

i love all of u guises and take it easy on urself. you will come out of this one day. and be neurosis free if you tunnel vision into getting a balanced life with good savings and enough money.

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The one's that actually go through it in the states at least are in my opinion, much more reasonable than just thinking "height is everything" They just have a neurosis and insecurity and complex that lowers their quality of life, but the ones that are suicidal in my opinion are not the ones who actually can afford LL, at least not in the USA. These are too busy in their head. The ones who simply have a big neurosis but otherwise are competent in life (and successful sometime) are the ones who can afford to throw 100 grand at a surgeon. I'm sure they have had a deep depression sometime in their life though regarding height, im sure all of us on this forum has had. However The ones in their basement continually weeping sadly and believe they are unemployed due to height, are a NEET solely because of their stature, unfortunately have a very miscontrued mentality, are probably never going to even have the money for LL. I feel for everyone though, neurosis can be very serious or minor and there was certainly moments where I have thought height means the entire world and I'm sure I'll feel that way too in the future.

it comes to the point where people are just tired of living their life with neurosis- not necessarily suicidal. but definitely something close to a depression which is really not that much better. some people do have minor neurosis and get this also.

a few months or a year of suffering and pain is worth it to cure a neurosis. anyone who thinks LL has no negatives is in their head and confused. the ones who do LL realize that it does have negatives, but it is worth it. the journey of LL is a hard one not just physically but mentally and more than enough diaries i have read where the person was isolated in a foreign country and depressed during lengthening. It is tough. It is sad. But I commend everyone who has to courage to go through this if they think they need this to just kill that neurosis and sound in their head. i respect all of you guys. i dont respect the people who think certain peoples don't have a valid neurosis simply because of their height though. I would be confused at a 5'5 women getting LL, but I will not judge. Because I know they also have suffered similar, just by virtue of being on this limblengtheningforum site you have suffered enough and want to change

i love all of u guises and take it easy on urself. you will come out of this one day. and be neurosis free if you tunnel vision into getting a balanced life with good savings and enough money.

Right on the money and spot on with everyone I've talked to at Paley who actually went through with it.

For many (including myself) it just comes down to wanting to improve this one nagging area in an otherwise amazing, fulfilling life.

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Is it a piece of true news that one Korean patient died of improper LL skills?

I heard for once from domestic news that a Korean youngster set out for LL and died of surgeon's fatal

manipulations(also he is not sure to be Dr.Lee).

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