Some people die after LL surgery or become crippled

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Quote from: LLuser1 on July 30, 2016, 04:32:28 PMSome people in this forum are not aware of the negative consequences this surgery may have on them. They can loose their lives or their limbs unfortunately, especially if you go to unskilled doctors but this can happen everywhere.

I've never seen anything that suggests the risk of death is higher for LL versus any other major surgical procedure.

Hell, gall bladder removal surgery is one of the riskiest surgeries on the planet (in terms of death rates), and is still routinely performed.

.4% death rate (one death for every 250 surgeries):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8443723

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Quote from: LLuser1 on July 30, 2016, 04:32:28 PMSome people in this forum are not aware of the negative consequences this surgery may have on them. They can loose their lives or their limbs unfortunately, especially if you go to unskilled doctors but this can happen everywhere.

What is up with your recent anti LL crusade?

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 30, 2016, 07:56:26 PMWhat is up with your recent anti LL crusade?

It's not recent. He made his first post slamming doctors (specifically Dr. Monegal) way back on December 7th, 2015. On a thread about Dr. Paley nonetheless.

Don't feed the troll.

With that said, this is actually a good post he did. People need to understand and see the negative side of LL.

I bet money this thread goes off the rails before it reaches page 2 though...

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Before he sticked to Monegal only now he jumped on whole LL industry.

As long as i understand the need to show negative side of LL(which im highly for) but then the actual form of showing it is just... 2 links about the same person and the third one is just wtf.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 30, 2016, 08:08:49 PMBefore he sticked to Monegal only now he jumped on whole LL industry.

As long as i understand the need to show negative side of LL(which im highly for) but then the actual form of showing it is just... 2 links about the same person and the third one is just wtf.

There's only 1 example of a death from LL (the 2 links) because after lots of searching myself, that is the only example of an LL related death I can find. I assume the OP couldn't find any others either.

Which kinda proves how "deadly" LL can be, just not in the way OP was hoping for, lol.

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People die crossing the road too if they don't do it right. I haven't seen a single case where a patient lost their limb going to even a bad, somewhat well known doctor. Even the bad cases are walking. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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It's quite obvious that OP started this thread with the solely purpose of including a veiled reference to his very beloved doctor, which he already did at post #7

Other than that, as it has already been said, LL is a quite common surgery. Cosmetic cases are still relatively scarce, but there are surgeries for kids with dwarfism, or people with shortened limbs after an accident, etc... Therefore, 1 or 2 deaths are statistically unavoidable. Hell, you can even google some cases of kids killed after routine dental procedures.

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LLUser1 - what created the concern troll? What's your backstory, Cassandra?

PS (for the record) I'm conflicted++, worrying whether CLL is worth the risk/hassle at my height & stage of life ... but I just wondered, what happened to you?

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Such a dumb topic.. more Americans die from eating pizza than CLL.

He probably thinks he's doing us a favor by posting some crappy links, trying to scare you guys. At least there's beginning to be a larger backlash against his behavior in recent months.

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There are alot of negative outcomes which are not reported! Most people would rather keep it to themselves than to be ganged on with critics who have no idea of the misery they have to endure for the rest of their lives.