Your hard advertising starts to really piss me off. Some loser moved to Ukraine for girls and now tries to make money by advertising Dr Jamal and his nail.
If that nail was that good every doctor would be using it. That has never happened!
For the price of Dr Jamal you can go to Greece and use Precice 2 in a fully developed country that in not partly torn by a war.
Hey doomsday, great name by the way! What's your story? Have you had LL? Thinking of it? I'm sure it won't be doom and gloom if you did 
You have no idea why I am here, girls is not the reason) If you must know, I happen to be in love with a girl who is not in this country.
These things come with patents and IP (Intellectual Property). There is a reason why the Bliskunov/Jamal nail is used only here and by this doctor. Precise is an inferior nail in my opinion and used by many doctors. It's like IOS vs Android. If you want IOS, you'll have to buy Apple, but with Android, you have a ton of choice. Dr Jamal told me he was offered Precise, but declined.
The war is long over and everything is back to normal, thanks. Also I am not here for good. Maybe a few more weeks, I'll see.
I won't be on this forum for much longer if losers like you continue to criticise Dr Jamal's pricing and location. I really don't need it and I really don't give a $hit where you or others go. Go to Greece and get killed in a riot for all I care.
My posts are for those considering LL to make an informed decision, and should they chose Kiev and while I am here, I am happy to provide mentoring and support during the journey. This is not to be taken lightly.
Info on the relatively new consultation process & measurements with Dr. Paley/Dr. Robbins.
Quote from: doomsday on August 09, 2018, 02:41:58 PMYour hard advertising starts to really piss me off. Some loser moved to Ukraine for girls and now tries to make money by advertising Dr Jamal and his nail.
If that nail was that good every doctor would be using it. That has never happened!
For the price of Dr Jamal you can go to Greece and use Precice 2 in a fully developed country that in not partly torn by a war.
Not only that, but dr Jamal is so fantastic apparently that there's not a single hit about him in Google in cyrillic alphabet (search words: Джамал + ортопед +Киев). No patient reviews, no information. As far as Google is concerned he doesn't exist.
The name tells me that dr Jamal is not Ukrainian. Most likelyy, from the Middle East. If he is so great, how come he wasn't in demand in his own country? Ukraine is balancing on the verge of becoming a failed state, they have more pressing problems on their hands than regulating medical licences. Anyone could show up in Ukraine and proclaim that they will lengthen legs and perform triple heart bypass surgery, complete with lobotomy and a separation of conjoined twins.
It's amazing that this forum allows such shameless advertising..
Thread is getting quite derailed. Instead of smearing a product, let's talk about its documented strengths.
Indeed, Precice is not cheap, but that is its only shortcoming. It's state of the art and FDA approved. It has countless research papers with doctors all around the world using the device. Doctors must be approved to use the device, and in some cases representatives from NuVasive will fly in to assist with surgery to make sure that everything goes right.
If you want a peace of mind that you're getting the same care and a predictable result, it's recommended to choose a doctor that offers Precice.
Quote from: Kotiki on August 09, 2018, 11:32:18 PMNot only that, but dr Jamal is so fantastic apparently that there's not a single hit about him in Google in cyrillic alphabet (search words: Джамал + ортопед +Киев). No patient reviews, no information. As far as Google is concerned he doesn't exist.
The name tells me that dr Jamal is not Ukrainian. Most likelyy, from the Middle East. If he is so great, how come he wasn't in demand in his own country? Ukraine is balancing on the verge of becoming a failed state, they have more pressing problems on their hands than regulating medical licences. Anyone could show up in Ukraine and proclaim that they will lengthen legs and perform triple heart bypass surgery, complete with lobotomy and a separation of conjoined twins.
It's amazing that this forum allows such shameless advertising..
Kotiki, for the record, and not that it matters, Dr Jamal is of Palestinian origin. Palestine is not a recognised state and it would be difficult for him to operate there given the geo-political situation. Like most Palestinians, he settled in a foreign country. Don't forget that the original team consisted of Dr Dragan and Jamal. Dr Dragan was in my opinion the best (have a look at his bio if your want to know more about the man) and Dr Jamal trained with him until he sadly and tragically passed away in 2011. You'll note Dr Dragan was an assistant of Professor Bliskunov who pioneered the internal nail for limb lengthening.
http://www.correction.kiev.ua/bonamed/dragan.htm
The fact that Dr Jamal does not return any hits on google only goes to show that he does not have any marketing of any sort behind him. The man is a real professional dedicated to his craft. He gets his patients mainly by word of mouth.
Once again, please don't join the other low lives in accusing me of advertising/promoting. I am here presenting information and I published my result. I am a finished article and I am not aware of any other who has posted photos and videos as I have, despite there being a few veteran LLers out there. Everyone is free to chose their doctor and location. If they should decide to come to Kiev and while I am here, I have offered my mentoring and support as I happen to know the formula for a successful outcome.
Quote from: Android on August 10, 2018, 03:35:23 AMThread is getting quite derailed. Instead of smearing a product, let's talk about its documented strengths.
Indeed, Precice is not cheap, but that is its only shortcoming. It's state of the art and FDA approved. It has countless research papers with doctors all around the world using the device. Doctors must be approved to use the device, and in some cases representatives from NuVasive will fly in to assist with surgery to make sure that everything goes right.
If you want a peace of mind that you're getting the same care and a predictable result, it's recommended to choose a doctor that offers Precice.
Do not post Abu Jamal off-topic thing here. Continue discussion @ http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9107.msg93453
Regular readers enter this thread to read more about Paley and Stryde. They will be dissapointed when they see the new posts are all about Abu.
@Mods please move any further post to that thread.
Quote from: tlannister on August 10, 2018, 09:35:51 AMregarding Stryde I am a bit worried about the diameter sizes offered. Precice 2 had 8.5mm nails, Stryde doesnt offer that. starts on 10mm.
I think i have a small bone canals because my arm wrist is tiny.
The vast majority of men can handle a 10mm nail.
And it is logical that it is at least 10mm as it is completely weight bearing.
However, for some men and women who can't handle it going to precise 2 is the only way. Still the results will be very good but they'll need more intensive pt as they won't walk and of course rehabilitation will be 2-3 months longer.
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