suggestion on how much height to gain with wingspan

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Quote from: jbfjbj4 on February 05, 2024, 04:28:21 PMThis is a woman poster so disregard everything she says. Women have no clue about men or men's problems, and for that reason you should never trust a woman doctor either.

It's your words which shouldn't be reliable, because you sound like a reclusive little man hiding in his home.

Anyone can see a man with mental health problems, I also see you using language which would get you ridiculed in real life.
You're avoided because you say manlet and avoid female doctors, not because you're short 😂

I'm taller than you without even trying, little manlet.

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i dunno about the shorts thing but im thinking of long sleeve shirts. im seeing Sedat from livelifetaller always wear a jacket . maybe he is hiding his arms? summers not a great season i guess lol.

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Quote from: babygirl on February 05, 2024, 11:31:27 PMIt's your words which shouldn't be reliable, because you sound like a reclusive little man hiding in his home.

Anyone can see a man with mental health problems, I also see you using language which would get you ridiculed in real life.
You're avoided because you say manlet and avoid female doctors, not because you're short 😂

I'm taller than you without even trying, little manlet.

Female detected, opinion disregarded.

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The first thing to note is that wingspan is determined by both your clavicle and arm length. Measure your bideltoid width and it should give a rough idea of whether or not your clavicle is below or above average length. It should be ~43 cm given your height. If your measurement goes 40cm and below, it may as well be your short clavicles. But this is easily affected by muscle mass on the shoulders, and you've stated that your arms look short in the mirror, so your problem is probably short arms. (clavicles could still affect it though)

-4cm ape index is within the normal range, but I think going a little further than that will give you the T-rex arms look. The absolute limit is -10cm, and even then it stands out for most people. With your current arm length, I would suggest you go to 175-176cm. You can do this in one surgery.

If you want to go to 180cm, get humerus lengthening, 3.5cm per arm. Then, get a second surgery (tibias perhaps). But, overall being tall trumps having   proportions. You will still look somewhat shortish in the arms but it should be fine. Measure your forearms as well, so you know how much to lengthen in the humerus. 0.81 is avg fa:humerus. Don't go too far from that.

If you're worried about compounding too man risks with arm lengthening, then I think you should stick to one conservative lengthening.

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Quote from: slendermanwannabe on February 06, 2024, 01:13:08 PMThe first thing to note is that wingspan is determined by both your clavicle and arm length. Measure your bideltoid width and it should give a rough idea of whether or not your clavicle is below or above average length. It should be ~43 cm given your height. If your measurement goes 40cm and below, it may as well be your short clavicles. But this is easily affected by muscle mass on the shoulders, and you've stated that your arms look short in the mirror, so your problem is probably short arms. (clavicles could still affect it though)

-4cm ape index is within the normal range, but I think going a little further than that will give you the T-rex arms look. The absolute limit is -10cm, and even then it stands out for most people. With your current arm length, I would suggest you go to 175-176cm. You can do this in one surgery.

If you want to go to 180cm, get humerus lengthening, 3.5cm per arm. Then, get a second surgery (tibias perhaps). But, overall being tall trumps having   proportions. You will still look somewhat shortish in the arms but it should be fine. Measure your forearms as well, so you know how much to lengthen in the humerus. 0.81 is avg fa:humerus. Don't go too far from that.

If you're worried about compounding too man risks with arm lengthening, then I think you should stick to one conservative lengthening.

Great post, it is a big tradeoff with proportions/extra height and arm measurement is something you won't truly realize the discrepancy of until you are done lengthening and see yourself in a full body mirror. Most doctors will tell you arms aren't noticeable but they certainly are. I think they themselves are just not comfortable performing the surgery as they don't have the experience and there being much less in the literature than femoral or tibial lengthening. Humerus lengthening also includes tearing the rotator cuff which I imagine is extremely painful.

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Quote from: jbfjbj4 on February 06, 2024, 08:33:57 AMFemale detected, opinion disregarded.

If female opinion wasn't important, you wouldn't be breaking your legs for them, shortie.

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Quote from: slendermanwannabe on February 06, 2024, 01:13:08 PMThe first thing to note is that wingspan is determined by both your clavicle and arm length. Measure your bideltoid width and it should give a rough idea of whether or not your clavicle is below or above average length. It should be ~43 cm given your height. If your measurement goes 40cm and below, it may as well be your short clavicles. But this is easily affected by muscle mass on the shoulders, and you've stated that your arms look short in the mirror, so your problem is probably short arms. (clavicles could still affect it though)

-4cm ape index is within the normal range, but I think going a little further than that will give you the T-rex arms look. The absolute limit is -10cm, and even then it stands out for most people. With your current arm length, I would suggest you go to 175-176cm. You can do this in one surgery.

If you want to go to 180cm, get humerus lengthening, 3.5cm per arm. Then, get a second surgery (tibias perhaps). But, overall being tall trumps having   proportions. You will still look somewhat shortish in the arms but it should be fine. Measure your forearms as well, so you know how much to lengthen in the humerus. 0.81 is avg fa:humerus. Don't go too far from that.

If you're worried about compounding too man risks with arm lengthening, then I think you should stick to one conservative lengthening.

This is really interesting how the forearm/humerus ratio is so simialr to the tibia/femur ratio of 0.8. Can you share where you got these stats? I'd like to read more on it.