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Posted on Oct 23, 2016, 4:11 pm
#301

Quote from: Unicorn888 on October 23, 2016, 03:47:22 PMI'm no expert either.  I asked Guichet whether he'd do tibs when I first had my consultation and he said it was riskier because it involved 2 bones being broken, and the healing is much slower.  Also, most docs only offer external nails, meaning you run the risk of open wound infections and they constantly need careful attention.

He said it's not worth it when you can do your femurs with one cut internally.  That's his 2 cents UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016


I suppose it comes down to which method best suits your circumstance. If not for the HEF device, I would have chosen internals as well.

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Posted on Oct 23, 2016, 6:14 pm
#302

Quote from: Whereintheworld? on October 23, 2016, 04:03:44 PMMuscle mass is a benefit for internals, not externals. In fact, with externals, the less muscle the better (to an extent).
Nearly every journal I've read from those who have undergone the internal method describe intense pain. I went the external route (albeit the HEF) and never really experienced any sort of actual pain.
In addition to this, with externals, misalignments can be fixed in a matter of minutes.

I'll cede that internals provide a quicker recovery and less scarring, but they're not safer or more efficient by default.

You may be right about the pain.  Though I've to say Guichet's pain management is none... UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016. He seriously prescribes 2 weeks of codeine and after that, we only get paracetamol.  So you can imagine post op at the hospital, we get tramadol or codeine every 4 hours but definitely none of the 3-day epidurals that some docs give. 

We know the rap by now, he says to everyone, "are you trying to commit suicide by... (insert your lame drug of choice that he no longer approves of).... codeine, sleep aids, paracetamol even calcium!!!" 

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Posted on Oct 23, 2016, 6:45 pm
#303

Quote from: Unicorn888 on October 23, 2016, 06:14:09 PMYou may be right about the pain.  Though I've to say Guichet's pain management is none... UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016. He seriously prescribes 2 weeks of codeine and after that, we only get paracetamol.  So you can imagine post op at the hospital, we get tramadol or codeine every 4 hours but definitely none of the 3-day epidurals that some docs give. 

We know the rap by now, he says to everyone, "are you trying to commit suicide by... (insert your lame drug of choice that he no longer approves of).... codeine, sleep aids, paracetamol even calcium!!!"

Stock up now, what mamma don't know won't hurt her

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Posted on Oct 23, 2016, 7:01 pm
#304

Wow, so I just read your entire diary from start to finish and DAMN, you went through a lot!!! A hell of a lot more than I've seen most patient diaries here. Maybe you're just more honest. But an almost 4 inch gain, that's incredible! Im currently 5'2 and 5'6 would be a dream for me, but I don't have the money for internal so I'm probably gonna end up close to 5'4ish. I'm really happy for you though, I'm sure all the pain feels like it was worth it now. You're tough, I don't know if I could go through everything you did, but Guichet is an amazing surgeon, great choice.

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Posted on Oct 27, 2016, 5:55 pm
#305

Quote from: Unicorn888 on October 23, 2016, 06:14:09 PMYou may be right about the pain.  Though I've to say Guichet's pain management is none... UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016. He seriously prescribes 2 weeks of codeine and after that, we only get paracetamol.  So you can imagine post op at the hospital, we get tramadol or codeine every 4 hours but definitely none of the 3-day epidurals that some docs give. 

We know the rap by now, he says to everyone, "are you trying to commit suicide by... (insert your lame drug of choice that he no longer approves of).... codeine, sleep aids, paracetamol even calcium!!!"

Dont scare me, i need my Tramadol etc. Not going without it. Geting it of the black markeY if the hassle is to big. also do you know what you must bring with you on your consultation with Guichet? Is it blood test, X-ray (i've heard this is hard to get approval of).
And possibly Allergic tests.

Anyway if anyone know the essentials. Please write them down so i now what to get before setting the meeting up with him.

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Posted on Oct 28, 2016, 11:19 am
#306

Quote from: Slim_tim on October 27, 2016, 05:55:12 PMDont scare me, i need my Tramadol etc. Not going without it. Geting it of the black markeY if the hassle is to big. also do you know what you must bring with you on your consultation with Guichet? Is it blood test, X-ray (i've heard this is hard to get approval of).
And possibly Allergic tests.

Anyway if anyone know the essentials. Please write them down so i now what to get before setting the meeting up with him.

If it's your first appointment with Guichet, you just need to fill out, print out and bring it to your appointment:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3k4SvffTIpnLXpKUXdRcWMwaEE/view?usp=sharing

He's going to ask you to strip and measure you and take photos.  He wants to see how flexible you are as it will determine how far you can lengthen.

The rest, you don't have to spend money on tests yet until you hear what your chances are first UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016

Let me know if you have further questions, ok?

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Posted on Oct 28, 2016, 11:41 am
#307

Quote from: Unicorn888 on October 28, 2016, 11:19:57 AMIf it's your first appointment with Guichet, you just need to fill out, print out and bring it to your appointment:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3k4SvffTIpnLXpKUXdRcWMwaEE/view?usp=sharing

He's going to ask you to strip and measure you and take photos.  He wants to see how flexible you are as it will determine how far you can lengthen.

The rest, you don't have to spend money on tests yet until you hear what your chances are first UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016

Let me know if you have further questions, ok?

Do you know why Guichet asks about Endocrinologist?

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Posted on Oct 28, 2016, 4:38 pm
#308

Hi, unicorn, sorry bothering you again UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016 Why do you mean by chances? How much you can lengthen based on your flexibility?Let's suppose one is not flexible enough to lengthen much, they train  for months and their flexibility improve and then they're able to lengthen more, right? Isn't it the point whole point of training, improving muscle mass and flexibility?

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Posted on Oct 28, 2016, 9:17 pm
#309

Quote from: Annalisa on October 28, 2016, 04:38:06 PMHi, unicorn, sorry bothering you again UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016 Why do you mean by chances? How much you can lengthen based on your flexibility?Let's suppose one is not flexible enough to lengthen much, they train  for months and their flexibility improve and then they're able to lengthen more, right? Isn't it the point whole point of training, improving muscle mass and flexibility?

Dr Guichet believe that flexibility is more important thang age, so just be flexible and have a good muscles in your legs then, he will not ask you to train with his team pre-op

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Posted on Oct 29, 2016, 12:19 am
#310

Quote from: Annalisa on October 28, 2016, 04:38:06 PMHi, unicorn, sorry bothering you again UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016 Why do you mean by chances? How much you can lengthen based on your flexibility?Let's suppose one is not flexible enough to lengthen much, they train  for months and their flexibility improve and then they're able to lengthen more, right? Isn't it the point whole point of training, improving muscle mass and flexibility?

Actually, it turns out flexibility is one of those rare things that make lengthening less painful.  It's not because you can bend in all kinds of angles, but because your collagen is more 'elastic'.  So as you stretch taller, you suffer less soft tissue pains. I didn't have stretching pains until past 7cm, then it started to get tight (even my skin felt like a balloon about to explode). 

Of my 7 classmates, 5 stopped earlier than their goal because they could not withstand the stretching pains.  I was told it's like when you go through puberty and grow tall over a very short period of time.  Literally, your soft tissue and bone hurt from being pulled apart.

Also, from a dynamic point of view, I was able to recover my knee/hip flexion and extensions better, so it meant less discomfort and pain as I can start walking normally, bend my knees in cars, kneel, etc.  For some of the guys, it can take over a year to slowly regain flexibility.  So pain can come from IT band, hamstrings and other muscles, that are 'shorter' than your new height, so it hurts when you stretch out your leg and take a proper step (not merely just hopping on a walking frame or crutch).  So, because of these 'shorter' muscles, less flexible people usually suffer from lordosis or duck ass right after lengthening and it takes specific stretching exercises like the superman pose to stretch out your muscles so that it doesn't make your ass jut out.

But here's the catch, flexibility cannot be trained overnight, not in one or three months even.  It's usually years of yoga practice or you're born with hypermobility like I was.  That's why Guichet's pre-op training has a big stretching component to it which focuses mainly on your quads and hamstrings.  It's just as important if not more than strength training.

Once Guichet measures your flexibility, he can roughly give you an idea of how far you can lengthen before you hit pain.  He's not going to stop you from your desired height, but he's realistic.  I wanted 7-8cm, and he suggested 10cm because I'm a circus freak.  Most guys got about 5cm and Guichet's very good at pushing for more if he thinks your body can handle it.  He has good spidey senses when it comes to that.

But the biggest traumatic components about lengthening with Guichet is the post op period (surgery recovery - mental and physical shock of being crippled overnight - it's pretty invasive), hitting stretching pains about post 4cm and flexibility recovery (because when you walk normally, a lot of elements are actually coordinated and these get reset to zero after lengthening - non existent glutes, short IT bands, tight hamstrings and quads, weak abs - all the power force behind a walk, that we so take for granted UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016

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