Quote from: thatwlstdude on March 23, 2024, 08:27:14 AMTerrible.
I do want to jump in a clarify. Using antibiotics *after an incision closes* is what they’re referring to. And ONLY if there is no infection. They’re saying don’t use preventative antibiotics if there is no infection after a surgical wound heals. As many used to do. If you have an open wound with an infection you absolutely should take them.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230505/New-guidance-recommends-the-discontinuation-of-antibiotics-after-closure-of-incisions.aspx
Yes, that’s what I was referring to as well. They give antibiotics even if you’re doing Precice and don’t even have an infection. The next superbug will come from Yuksel Yurttas patient I guess.
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on March 23, 2024, 04:37:53 PMPreventatively taking antibiotics absolutely works. The governments/WHO advised against it because it's bad on a societal level (i.e. the development of resistance long term), but for the individual it's very worthwhile to take them. The only reason you wouldn't is if you actually care about 'society' and faceless other humans you'll never meet.
For another example: if I'm going to fk a working girl bareback, I'll absolutely be taking preventative antibiotics to prevent any possibility of chlamydia infection. It's an excellent choice for MY health. It's bad for YOUR health (as the development of antibiotic resistance on the population), but I don't give a damn about your health, only mine. And I'd expect no less in return. Take the meds, especially for something like LL.
It’s not worthwhile for an individual to take it. The patient who Dr Yuksel gave a bone infection to reported she was taking antibiotics instead of doing debridement. It’s been 2 years now, and she still has a bone infection due to the negligence of Yuksel Yurttas and the resistance of her infection to treatments. If a bone infection gets particularly bad, you can die if infected blood reaches your heart.
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Quote from: shortisnotfun on March 23, 2024, 04:54:00 PMYes, that’s what I was referring to as well. They give antibiotics even if you’re doing Precice and don’t even have an infection. The next superbug will come from Yuksel Yurttas patient I guess.
It’s not worthwhile for an individual to take it. The patient who Dr Yuksel gave a bone infection to reported she was taking antibiotics instead of doing debridement. It’s been 2 years now, and she still has a bone infection due to the negligence of Yuksel Yurttas and the resistance of her infection to treatments. If a bone infection gets particularly bad, you can die if infected blood reaches your heart.
I can guarantee you she didnt get the infection BECAUSE of the antibiotics. She perhaps caught it on the operating table and the antibiotics failed to prevent it - no medication works 100% of the time, you still have much better odds taking antibiotics than not doing.
This is like saying you can still die if you wear your seatbelt therefore there's no value in doing so.
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on March 23, 2024, 05:43:57 PMI can guarantee you she didnt get the infection BECAUSE of the antibiotics. She perhaps caught it on the operating table and the antibiotics failed to prevent it - no medication works 100% of the time, you still have much better odds taking antibiotics than not doing.
This is like saying you can still die if you wear your seatbelt therefore there's no value in doing so.
That’s exactly what I’m saying. She got the infection during the surgery, and the taking of antibiotics instead of debridement at the end caused it to be resistant.
Quote from: shortisnotfun on March 23, 2024, 09:25:10 PMThat’s exactly what I’m saying. She got the infection during the surgery, and the taking of antibiotics instead of debridement at the end caused it to be resistant.
The problem here isn't the taking of antibiotics, the problem is the non-sterile procedures on the operating table then. Which is certainly something to criticise them for, but the taking of an antibiotic is neither here nor there.
Antibiotics are a good pre-emptive measure IN CASE something went wrong. I do it all the time if expecting to be exposed to potentially harmful bacteria - for example, going to visit a country where food safety standards aren't all that high, I'll take antibiotics a day before and continue them until a day after I leave. Because it works, most times. The only reason western doctors don't do it is for the benefit of society, not the patient on the operating table. I don't give a damn about the long term societal implications or any other soy ideas, I only care for myself, and so I'd have definitely taken the antibiotics if offered (I can't even remember if they were, surgery was a year ago now).
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on March 24, 2024, 09:06:47 AMThe problem here isn't the taking of antibiotics, the problem is the non-sterile procedures on the operating table then. Which is certainly something to criticise them for, but the taking of an antibiotic is neither here nor there.
Antibiotics are a good pre-emptive measure IN CASE something went wrong. I do it all the time if expecting to be exposed to potentially harmful bacteria - for example, going to visit a country where food safety standards aren't all that high, I'll take antibiotics a day before and continue them until a day after I leave. Because it works, most times. The only reason western doctors don't do it is for the benefit of society, not the patient on the operating table. I don't give a damn about the long term societal implications or any other soy ideas, I only care for myself, and so I'd have definitely taken the antibiotics if offered (I can't even remember if they were, surgery was a year ago now).
Exactly. Yuksel Yurttas gave her an infection on the operating table and then tried to pawn her away like it wasn’t his fault.
You are a liar. You are downplaying everything. It wasn't just a minor "stress fracture", you gave Joseph a pylon fracture requiring major surgery to fix! He had to go back to the USA to have it corrected! And as far as I know, he's still recovering and cannot function well yet. He also got a 30 degree equinus contracture! Just watch the YouTube video.
Dr. Yuksel is a butcher. It's as simple as that. Anyone going with him is a fool.
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