Use of the term - Height Dysphoria

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Quote from: ghkid2021 on February 05, 2021, 02:13:25 AMSome people expect the surgery to change their personality

All it does is "possibly" remove the neurosis and thoughts in your head of insecurity.

Nothing else changes. Even baseline happiness is not increased, with the exception of slight gain from not having to think about height (possibly)

Some people think they will be Chad for some reason. Turn from introvert to extrovert. Be more likeable. Just lol.

It is a sad thingy in my opinion if go through all this and come out still as insecure. And that is why it is important to keep expectations in check before hand. Have no expectations but simply the possibility of removing neurosis.

And if it don't remove neurosis, that is the worst outcome ever

If all this is a possibility why are u even considering ll? Isnt the main point of it to get rid of height neurosis/insecurity? Anyone doing it for aesthetics and sacrificing their athletic ability plus possible complications is stupid.

All u gotta do is wear lifts for 2-3 inches and if u feel better/ur insecurity is gone then it isnt just a possibility but certain that u will not be insecure and will forget the thought about height.

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u can't wear lifts and take a girl home for example - ur reminded every step u take etc

the patient has a genuine belief that the surgery will cure it

u are on this site urself!!

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Quote from: azaghul on February 05, 2021, 02:43:18 AMIf all this is a possibility why are u even considering ll? Isnt the main point of it to get rid of height neurosis/insecurity? Anyone doing it for aesthetics and sacrificing their athletic ability plus possible complications is stupid.

All u gotta do is wear lifts for 2-3 inches and if u feel better/ur insecurity is gone then it isnt just a possibility but certain that u will not be insecure and will forget the thought about height.

It's a possibility because while most people do CURE neurosis, some don't. Just an observation.vast majority do significantly reduce their neurosis. I'm just pointint out that while it's likely, it's not a guarantee

Lifts are so toxic to your mental health at the end of the day. Anyone who has obseesively worn lifts to fight height dysphoria knows what this means.

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Idk as a veteran of mental illness one thing that bugs me the most is the assumption that people do this for others. For attractiveness, jobs, relationship issues and yes maybe it‘s true for some (maybe even most?) people but definitely not for me. I just do it for myself bc I am trapped in the wrong body (figure of speech) and suicide is the less preferable option. It‘s that simple. People try to gatekeep all the time and try to find reasons or whatever (play pseudo-psychologist), which I dislike. You have to see through the eyes of someone experiencing this to truly understand them, it‘s okay if you don‘t but talking like you know why they feel this way or what’s going in their head is just terrible. One reason I quit social interaction and counseling in the first place.

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Quote from: RealDamagedLostSoul on February 10, 2021, 11:45:06 PMIdk as a veteran of mental illness one thing that bugs me the most is the assumption that people do this for others. For attractiveness, jobs, relationship issues and yes maybe it‘s true for some (maybe even most?) people but definitely not for me. I just do it for myself bc I am trapped in the wrong body (figure of speech) and suicide is the less preferable option. It‘s that simple. People try to gatekeep all the time and try to find reasons or whatever (play pseudo-psychologist), which I dislike. You have to see through the eyes of someone experiencing this to truly understand them, it‘s okay if you don‘t but talking like you know why they feel this way or what’s going in their head is just terrible. One reason I quit social interaction and counseling in the first place.

You can do LL for whatever reason you want, even if you are 6'5 or 4'11, mentally unstable or fine. Ignore the noise and do your own thing. Do not bother talking to those that want to argue with you about the validity of your own personal struggle.

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Quote from: RealDamagedLostSoul on February 10, 2021, 11:45:06 PMIdk as a veteran of mental illness one thing that bugs me the most is the assumption that people do this for others. For attractiveness, jobs, relationship issues and yes maybe it‘s true for some (maybe even most?) people but definitely not for me. I just do it for myself bc I am trapped in the wrong body (figure of speech) and suicide is the less preferable option. It‘s that simple. People try to gatekeep all the time and try to find reasons or whatever (play pseudo-psychologist), which I dislike. You have to see through the eyes of someone experiencing this to truly understand them, it‘s okay if you don‘t but talking like you know why they feel this way or what’s going in their head is just terrible. One reason I quit social interaction and counseling in the first place.

i guess its like with transgender. hard to understand unless you experience it urself.

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Quote from: RealDamagedLostSoul on February 10, 2021, 11:45:06 PMIdk as a veteran of mental illness one thing that bugs me the most is the assumption that people do this for others. For attractiveness, jobs, relationship issues and yes maybe it‘s true for some (maybe even most?) people but definitely not for me. I just do it for myself bc I am trapped in the wrong body (figure of speech) and suicide is the less preferable option. It‘s that simple. People try to gatekeep all the time and try to find reasons or whatever (play pseudo-psychologist), which I dislike. You have to see through the eyes of someone experiencing this to truly understand them, it‘s okay if you don‘t but talking like you know why they feel this way or what’s going in their head is just terrible. One reason I quit social interaction and counseling in the first place.

If you were The only human in The world you wouldn’t do LL. It’s all due to The comparison with others.

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be interesting to find out what  % of postets actually proceed to surgery!!?? - most of the nonsense is spoken by those...

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Quote from: th on February 11, 2021, 02:16:58 PMbe interesting to find out what  % of postets actually proceed to surgery!!?? - most of the nonsense is spoken by those...

No more than 20% I bet. In regards to the overall numbers I would say upwards of 80 percent of LLers do not know of this forum. This causes many of the users here to disregard outside numbers and stats.

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Quote from: ghkid2021 on February 11, 2021, 01:14:29 AMYou can do LL for whatever reason you want, even if you are 6'5 or 4'11, mentally unstable or fine. Ignore the noise and do your own thing. Do not bother talking to those that want to argue with you about the validity of your own personal struggle.

My words! Absolutely agree 

Quote from: 10cmOnTibiaOrGTFO on February 11, 2021, 01:25:08 PMi guess its like with transgender. hard to understand unless you experience it urself.

Yea it‘s quite similar in a way and I sometimes use that comparison to explain it to family members.

Quote from: Tartar on February 11, 2021, 01:40:46 PMIf you were The only human in The world you wouldn’t do LL. It’s all due to The comparison with others.

If I were the only human existing there wouldn’t be any surgery. If I was the only human I wouldn‘t even know anything. eg to take the transgender comparison into account here, a trans person wouldn‘t even know there was another gender if they would be the only person on Earth. Maybe they’d knew that something is wrong but so would I (besides that you are the only person alive, there literally is a lot wrong psychologically then lol)