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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 7:13 am
#191

hey disobedient and shorty .... nice to meet u guys in person ...
well , now i m back home and i m doing fine ...
may be i will come to delhi soon and meet you guys again ... anyway take care and be safe

i m sorry i was little busy , i m sending you the doctor name in pm .
CU


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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 7:46 am
#192

Drew,

of course the fixator goes through muscles -- especially the lateral and antterior ones (gluteus medius and quadriceps) and this creates the muscle to assume a shorten position (remain contracted). The quads are the ones the make you straighten your knee, and if this muscle is involuntary activated, then you can't bend you knee. Obvioulsy with lots of physical therapy after frame removal you should be able to recover ROM. However, the longer the frames are on the longer the athrophy will persist. I read that Diso had Knee Manipulation under anesthesia and she woke up with greater pain. BTW, KM is when they knock you out and they forcefully bend and straighten your knee several times to break down the adhesions developed. It is a good technique but of course you're going to be pain (sored) when you wake up. Drew, if you are looking into having CLL I suggest you to read your anatomy, physiology and kinesiology. You can't just go have this procedure and not know what's happening to your body. This is some major s**t and no joke. 

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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 12:32 pm
#193

Manipulation under anesthesia is a terrible idea.
Many have wrecked their knees this way.

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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 2:49 pm
#194


Quote from: Leonardo2013 on December 23, 2013, 07:46:40 AMDrew, if you are looking into having CLL I suggest you to read your anatomy, physiology and kinesiology.


ok.

Quote from: Leonardo2013 on December 23, 2013, 07:46:40 AMDrew,

of course the fixator goes through muscles -- especially the lateral and antterior ones (gluteus medius and quadriceps) and this creates the muscle to assume a shorten position (remain contracted). The quads are the ones the make you straighten your knee, and if this muscle is involuntary activated, then you can't bend you knee.


Leonardo2013,
 
this didn't help.Sorry

I talked to Doctor Yasser he stated that the monorail does not go through the muscles. Now, I realize that while Disobedient is using monorail, but this isn’t true in her case.

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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 8:51 pm
#195

Drew, then how in the world are they going to get to the bone if they do not go though the muscle? The femur is surrounded by big -- huge -- muscles such as the quads (there's 4) and the Hamstrings (has two heads). Here's two articles you may want to take a look at:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2994627/

http://books.google.com/books?id=yNTED-6REewC&pg=PA680&lpg=PA680&dq=lengthening+femur+muscle+stiffness&source=bl&ots=vaGT_BNpOw&sig=LsZFcULZ-xd74gHdhYAsP5mDvP4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=paC4Up7mLKLmsASnwoC4Ag&ved=0CFgQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=lengthening%20femur%20muscle%20stiffness&f=false

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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 10:08 pm
#196

Quote from: Leonardo2013 on December 23, 2013, 08:51:16 PMDrew, then how in the world are they going to get to the bone if they do not go though the muscle? The femur is surrounded by big -- huge -- muscles such as the quads (there's 4) and the Hamstrings (has two heads). Here's two articles


Leonardo2013,

The issue is not with the muscles – obviously the monorail go through the muscles.

Except that I trust Doctors in general and Doctor Yasser  said that the monorail didn’t go through the muscles.

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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 10:44 pm
#197

Drew, just to give you my two cents. Be careful of Dr Yasser Elbatrawy from Egypt. I've followed him for years and at some point I considered him as one of my options but I read some bad reviews of him from former patients that state he painted everything wine and roses and wasn't like that after they had surgery. So, I suggest you to check out http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/hospitals.html for more info. There were diaries of Elbatrawys' patients in old forums but unfortunately they no longer exist. Anyways, good luck and inform yourself very well.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2013, 4:24 pm
#198

Hello girl,

How is everything with you? Have you stopped the distraction process? I finally did it, tomorrow the tugging begins. Pain is sometimes almost unbearable even with painkillers. Pains so bad I had thoughts of removing the frames and give up. Well, that passed but not without sleepless nights. Im bowing to anyone who does quad any day.

Monorail not going thru muscles in femur? Impossible. I studied anatomy for art, our femur is wrapped in layers of muscles.

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Posted on Dec 27, 2013, 5:14 pm
#199

I think a little bit of unwrapping goes on during the surgery so they can get a clean shot at the femur with the pins.

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Posted on Jan 4, 2014, 4:52 am
#200

We haven't heard from you in awhile Disobedient.

How are you doing?

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