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Posted on Jun 22, 2017, 9:32 pm
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Quote from: Body Builder on June 22, 2017, 07:17:08 PMIn Europe who uses it ?


  load of doctors
http://www.timocarrigan.com.au/decision-making-limb-lengthening-reconstruction.html this guy in from AU . Im not sure if you know that but now every surgeon got a websites in which he states what nail he uses...

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Posted on Jun 22, 2017, 9:47 pm
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Quote from: doomsday on June 22, 2017, 09:32:42 PMcrap load of doctors
http://www.timocarrigan.com.au/decision-making-limb-lengthening-reconstruction.html this guy in from AU . Im not sure if you know that but now every surgeon got a websites in which he states what nail he uses...

In Europe the doctors that we have patient's diaries here uses albizzia, precise 2 and fitbone.
In usa doctors uses precise 2.
So if iskd was an equivalent nail to all these I believe that many of the best doctors would use it too but as I see they are not using it nowadays and there must be a reason for that.
And as I read from the doctor you gave a link, it lengthens up to 5cm so many of us wouldn't use it just for that as this amount is not edaquate for the majority of LL'ers.

So I don't know if it is as reliable as other nails (especially precise 2) but if it gives only 5cm, then it is not suitable for many LL'ers.

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 12:38 am
#13

I would trust more ISKD than Albizzia

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 12:46 am
#14

mistaken reply

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 12:54 am
#15

Quote from: onemorefoot on June 22, 2017, 03:18:19 PMThe problems of the nail were fixed, is not the same as 5 years ago.

I would like to know about the details of update.

Did the frequency of complications(runaway nail,premature consolidation,bending) decrease?

I want to choose LON if there are many complications of ISKD now.

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 1:46 am
#16

Runaway nail has been fixed, still I would recommend LON for tibias, we dont have many diaries with ISKD, so I cannot be 100 sure.

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 3:48 am
#17

These nail discussions are overrated. I met with several Precise doctors in the US, some Fitbone specialists including a popular Spanish doctor, even traveled to Lebach to meet Betz.

I've kept in touch with many patients. There were bent Precise, bent Betzbone + titanium replacement, Fitbone failures across that group. What's important is that all ~10 of the patients I know achieved their goals after undergoing surgery to fix their complications.

Doctor background/experience and method is the most important. I'd rather go with Dr. Cole for ISKD, than some doctor in India for Precise.

Make sense?

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 4:16 am
#18

Quote from: RealTrump on June 23, 2017, 03:48:21 AMThese nail discussions are overrated. I met with several Precise doctors in the US, some Fitbone specialists including a popular Spanish doctor, even traveled to Lebach to meet Betz.

I've kept in touch with many patients. There were bent Precise, bent Betzbone + titanium replacement, Fitbone failures across that group. What's important is that all ~10 of the patients I know achieved their goals after undergoing surgery to fix their complications.

Doctor background/experience and method is the most important. I'd rather go with Dr. Cole for ISKD, than some doctor in India for Precise.

Make sense?


Taking aside the Fitbone failures which are completely the fault of the company, the bending of the nails is not caused by the doctors. It is obviously because the patients did weightbearing too early for a nail which is not full weightbearing, or did a forbidden motion/action. In the case of Betzbone which is full weightbearing, I suspect a forbidden action or maybe because he allows lengthening of 10 cm. A lot of times, patients mess up.

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 4:18 am
#19

Can you bend a nail without putting weight? More for a movement

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Posted on Jun 23, 2017, 4:41 am
#20

The nail is basically a rod of metal, you have to apply considerable force for it to bend.

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