What are your thoughts on cyborg4life's LL supplement recommendations?

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TLDR:

"Level 1: which is most important level, the supplements I think are helpful are:
-Multi-Vitamin: whole food multivitamin is best
-Calcium: at least 1000mg per day
-Vitamin D3 - I took up to 5000 to 10,000iu per day

Level 2: are primarily the collagen synthesizers and these further help enhance bone healing
-Vitamin C - 1000 to 2000mg per day
-Collagen - research shows the best form is hydrolyzed wild-caught marine collagen
-Bone broth or bone meal are also great sources for optimizing the raw materials for bone healing

Level 3: these are gonna be mainly for joint integrity and reducing inflammation as you do PT
-MSM - methyl-sulfonyl-methane is phenomenal for reducing joint inflammation
-Glucosamine & Chondroitin also works well for keeping joint integrity up to standard
-Curcumin - the active ingredient in turmeric, is fantastic stuff for antiseptic and anti-inflammation
-Fish oil or an essential fatty acid - DON’T take during Distraction, just wait until consolidation especially since you’ll be on some sort of blood thinner.

Level 4:
-ZMA - aka zinc magnesium aspartate, good for sleep, bone healing and hormone profile
-Protein Shake - Whey protein is best for muscle recovery post PT sessions. Also quick snacks
-Creatine - helps retain muscle and energy for physical therapy"


I admit that I don't know what alot of this stuff is or how to evaluate them.  I'm assuming he's right but was hoping someone else with knowledge about these supplements could also comment on it to help me understand a bit better? ex: any contrary opinions that differ compared to the above?

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I'm in Athens and am a few weeks from finishing lengthening, and am not sure if I should email the doctor and ask him his opinion about these supplements after I finish lengthening

I'm not sure he wants to be bothered with this level specificity

But given my personality, I'm probably going to ask him and risk annoying him, I think he'll forgive me despite being slightly annoyed but he's nice

I've heard that some forms of supplemental calcium are not good (I vaguely remember, some people prefer calcium uh... what's it called, not calcium carbonate but can't remember which form). Right now my current calcium sources are like 2% DV from a multivitamin, some chia seeds, and some chocolate milk

I could search these supplements in Athen's wolt grocery delivery app but I'm not so good at evaluating supplements from grocery stores

I heard that creatine makes you thirsty/then you drink more water and then your muscles end feeling like.. not swollen but bigger volume, which I have mixed feelings about but I'm sure that its not a problem. I don't feel that I need more strength though. My bone growth is slightly slow now though I'm hoping that doing more walking will fix that

I've heard mixed things about bone broth, something about some kind of metal contamination, I don't understand, maybe someone more familiar with this can explain?

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Quote from: TheDream on November 21, 2022, 09:52:42 PMTo my knowledge the most important thing is simply supplementing the highest quality vitamins D3 & K2 after a meal with some fat it in it.

Yeah I wonder, I hear this alot too D3 and K2 supplements with fat seem to be popular even outside LL just in general

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on November 21, 2022, 11:57:22 PMIm going to take NMN as well.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=nmn&crid=23KUI57V3XKD3&sprefix=nm%2Caps%2C418&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

What are your guys thoughts on how to recognize a good NMN brand?

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To answer someone above, I thought that Dr. Giotikas requires patients to stay in Athens for 6 weeks, but my information might be outdated or wrong

"-ZMA - aka zinc magnesium aspartate, good for sleep, bone healing and hormone profile"

Do you guys understand why ZMA is related to bone healing? So zinc or magnesium or something is indirectly related to bone healing?

I know that cyborg4life recommends stuff for joints, but I'm not really having any joint problems (well I guess I am from these weird cracking noises from misc movements) but am on the fence about whether to take them

Basically, I have only 1 more cm left to lengthen and I wonder after I finish distraction if I can take more supplements to promote bone healing. I'm hesitant to take them now since I know that cyborg4life and my doctor said do not take things like fish oil during certain phases of the process, and I'm wary of causing an unintended cross reactions

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I'm gonna finish lengthening soon and am looking into bone related stuff

"-Collagen - research shows the best form is hydrolyzed wild-caught marine collagen
-Bone broth or bone meal are also great sources for optimizing the raw materials for bone healing"

These two I'm curious about. I hear conflicting things about collagen "oh it just gets broken down into amino acids, eating collagen specifically doesn't matter" versus idk eating collagen seems to be popular though. Anyone know how this works?

And then bone broth stuff, I've also heard conflicting things on this. I mean it sounds great "eat parts of bones to grow bones"

but then I hear like

"However, bones are known to sequester the heavy metal lead, contamination with which is widespread throughout the modern environment. Such sequestered lead can then be mobilised from the bones. We therefore hypothesised that bone broth might carry a risk of being contaminated with lead.

The risk of lead contamination in bone broth diets - PubMed"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23375414/#:~:text=However%2C%20bones%20are%20known%20to,of%20being%20contaminated%20with%20lead.

I'm having trouble making sense of all this