Dude's botched so many patients for the sake of money
Actually let me rephrase this entirely. Yeah India is a good destination cuz its cheap but aside from a few Doctors there, there's literally no one worth trusting
Even the trust worthy doctors such as 'Dr Parihar' just because he trained with Dr.Paley does not mean anything. He's not a Paley incarnation and it's actually embarrassing that leg lenghteners are desperate enough to hold him on such high regard for merely working with Paley.
At the end of the day ask yourself this - is the low cost really worth your health? Indian hospitals seriously lack hygiene, the physiotherapist would have little to no training and while the Doctor may/or may not be good at the end of the day its a huge risk
Its understandable that its tough to afford high quality western doctors but this doesn't mean one has to search up for the bottom of the barrel. You could easily look into Russia and Eastern Europe where quality care still exists, much better than India
Only was Apo able to strike major deals with Indian doctors because they were money hungry. Dr Sarin botched so many patients and destryoed them. Bed side or free complication surgeries means nothing when you're getting so many problems due to lack of skill. Smallguy had 4-5 surgeries, crazy6 is crippled permnanetnyl , Sweden too, bla bla bla.. Dr Sringari was even worse, a patients literal screw came out of his leg. The thread still exists
Dr.Parihar is no better. Yes he's better, yes he seems to follow Dr. Paley's advice but its totally delusional to think that he's an enigma or an illusion of even half the person Paley is. This is just sad.. how desperate people become to follow anyone they can convince themselves 'Oh hes good hes known Paley'.
Ive consulted with 20 LL docs and literally all of them knew Paley. 5 worked with him, even they themselves don't hold him in the highest regard. Mainly cuz they specialize in a lot more than leg lengthening or because they encounter different case by case basis
The conclusion? Just cuz a doc has worked with Paley doesnt mean hes going to give you the same result
Even Paley - doesnt mean youll be complication free
Most docotrs I met performed many - hundres of cases. Experience in this surgery is completely important. Even a local orthropedic that does limb lengthening often can give you a sucessful result, and I saw it myself with these surgeons. You need a surgeon that specializes in limb lengthening, not to say he doesn't do anything else, but he's well aware of it, the complications, what to fix when what happens, bla bla bla and youll be in good hands. Simply being a doctor that saw Paley on the operating table means jack
And India is the worst place to leg lengthen. I literally can't think of a worse place people can go to. Africa Kenya? maybe but luckily the doctors there aren't as money hungry to scam like Dr.Sarin/Sringari which is when the whole fiasco started that India is a valid place to leg lengthen.
This one snippet from your post shows how confused a person you are. End of story.
"Dr.Parihar is no better. Yes he's better"
Quote from: 7231 on January 29, 2019, 08:19:05 PMThis one snippet from your post shows how confused a person you are. End of story.
"Dr.Parihar is no better. Yes he's better"
He's not going to make you magically taller with 0 complication, no Doctor is. Dr.Paley does not teach these doctors step by step how to do surgery
They just went in training with him
I don't know what point you're trying to make. I already said he's better than the other two lying thieves (Sarin, Sringari) but that's not much competition.
Again most LL veterans like bodybuilder are aware that India is an awful place to do lengthening and its not suprising why
Having trained with Paley doesn't make one doctor a good choice by default, sure. It's really just one way to show that they have proper specialty training on the technical aspects of the surgery, much more so than a knee or spine surgeon who didn't spend years on the Ilizarov subspecialty offering leg lengthening.
Dr Elbatrawy in Egypt had some complaints against him, Dr Shah as well, both having trained with Paley (and in Shah's case with Catagni as well).
Dr Parihar and his team really stood out in their post-op care though, and he went out of his way to help me with my Visa extension issues and talk to my parents on the phone after surgery to let them know I was okay. While many Indian doctors have an "it's fine/it's good enough" attitude when it comes to correcting complications, Parihar ensured that everything was aligned before I went home and gave me appropriate advice when I sent follow up x-rays. So I'd definitely put him in a different category.
Being a foreigner alone in India can feel a bit overwhelming at first though, and there are precautions to take, no doubt.
Quote from: KiloKAHN on January 29, 2019, 08:40:27 PMHaving trained with Paley doesn't make one doctor a good choice by default, sure. It's really just one way to show that they have proper specialty training on the technical aspects of the surgery, much more so than a knee or spine surgeon who didn't spend years on the Ilizarov subspecialty offering leg lengthening.
Dr Elbatrawy in Egypt had some complaints against him, Dr Shah as well, both having trained with Paley (and in Shah's case with Catagni as well).
Dr Parihar and his team really stood out in their post-op care though, and he went out of his way to help me with my Visa extension issues and talk to my parents on the phone after surgery to let them know I was okay. While many Indian doctors have an "it's fine/it's good enough" attitude when it comes to correcting complications, Parihar ensured that everything was aligned before I went home and gave me appropriate advice when I sent follow up x-rays. So I'd definitely put him in a different category.
Being a foreigner alone in India can feel a bit overwhelming at first though, and there are precautions to take, no doubt.
Hey KiloKahn
I appreciate all that you do for this forum. I in fact created my questions list a lot based on the answer and questions you recieved/asked during your consultation
There's no guarantee it was Dr. Parihar's guidance that put you to a good result. Dr. Elbatrawy is a good Doctor in terms of skill but I'm pretty sure he lacks good communication skill or the right work ethic for this kind of surgery
Basically this surgery literally requires Doctors to hold the hands of their patients in each step. Hence why it eliminates most orthropedics from it, while the rest that are avilable to do it start to subdivide their priorities. Reading throughout there are very very few Doctors that actually possess both the skill + the hand holding required for this surgery. I know it sounds harsh to put it this way but its literally what it is
I feel based on the million diaries of India docs that I've read is forneighers are generally treated with more respect there, especially if they're white - this is psychological. The doctors will then tend to hand hold better, but skill wise I really doubt any of them are good. Bedside manners dont mean much if you lack surgical skills but bedside manner even whilst having problems can give patients a false sense of comfort.
I disliked Dr. Parihar's hospital site because it looks quite dumpy. There is nothing even close to a normal hospital looking stuff there which would red flag me for hygiene standards. No offence
'Parihar ensured that everything was aligned before I went home and gave me appropriate advice when I sent follow up x-rays. So I'd definitely put him in a different category.'
I don't want to sound very harsh here but this is literally part of every LL' docs job. Yeah most of them aren't adequate with it mainly because when the patient is overseas they couldn't really give many fks.
Overall looking at things though I guess India isnt the worst, but I have noticed that surgeons is a sociopath dominated field and leg lengthening is a very attractive field for them because short people looking for this are quite vulnerable.
It's cheap.
I’m not crippled. 
My knees may hurt from day to day, but I’m back being a top athlete and now competing in Martial Arts again.
The one thing that bothers me are my X-legs. That causes the knees to hurt mostly.
Being 180+ is truly amazing though. 
Quote from: Sweden on January 29, 2019, 11:45:52 PMI’m not crippled.
My knees may hurt from day to day, but I’m back being a top athlete and now competing in Martial Arts again.
The one thing that bothers me are my X-legs. That causes the knees to hurt mostly.
Being 180+ is truly amazing though.
Hey there Sweden
Sorry that is not what I meant but moreso that even while being a top athelete you weren't able to come out with minor complications with Dr.Sarin. The pain issue is quite huge but you're also one of the most honest people about your recovery and the process so Im sorry if I offended you.
Love you a lot!!
Ps. I thought you lost like a cm of height (I was gonna adjust for this in my own leg lengthening journey)
No worries. I don’t get offended.
In my passport it says I’m 179.
So with normal shoes I’m ~182cm. That’s alright.
Quote from: Sweden on January 30, 2019, 10:43:00 AMNo worries. I don’t get offended.
In my passport it says I’m 179.
So with normal shoes I’m ~182cm. That’s alright.
weren't you complaining and regrettin the whole thing for a very long time? what changed?
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