Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014

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Quote from: programdude on April 30, 2015, 09:40:39 PMPretty sure people in US can get the nails out using insurance through Dr. R in NY.

I'm confused, are you considering more ll? Your proportions could certainly handle it fine.

Yeah I'm strongly considering Dr. Rozbruch for that. I think my insurance would cover it, hopefully. Have to ask him. He once told me it likely would.

Yes - I'm thinking of re-breaking my femurs in about a year/year and a half to lengthen one more inch to 5'9". I had to stop at 7cm because Dr. G told me to. The pain got really terrible, unbearable almost, and my left leg wasn't healing that great at the time.

I'd prefer to do tibias in a perfect world for better proportions, but they just take way too long, and I don't want to do another full-blown LL (at least the femur rods are already inside, so I'd imagine it'd be a less invasive surgery). I don't think one more inch on my femurs would make me look that weird, especially once I fill out more (My legs are actually THIN for me right now lol)

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Based on those pictures you don't seem disproportional at all. If that's what it looks like IRL then you could lengthen another 5CM and still look good.

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Quote from: Uppland on April 30, 2015, 10:35:06 PMBased on those pictures you don't seem disproportional at all. If that's what it looks like IRL then you could lengthen another 5CM and still look good.

Appreciate it bud. Nah, I think another inch is the absolute max before they'd look too long...plus, the Gnails inside my femurs probably only have like 2.5-2.7cm or so left on em (even though I did 7cm, it may have distracted up to like 7.3ish cm I'm led to believe). If anything, I'd just do a solid inch and call it a day. Should be a faster recovery too.

Tibias just take too damn long. Plus, I broke my left ankle twice in my life, and tibias just seem more risky to me...and external frames (to avoid knee pain) really turn me off...

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Wow, your proportions look great! Thanks for keeping us updated!

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Well perhaps, the picture is taken at an angle but that's almost what my legs look like.

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Quote from: Uppland on April 30, 2015, 11:26:23 PMWell perhaps, the picture is taken at an angle but that's almost what my legs look like.

LL has actually improved my proportions as far as legs to torso. When I wear a button down shirt and don't tuck it in, I look fantastic whereas previously, I'd be swimming in it. Even when I tuck my shirt in, I look fine.

My only slight concern is taking the easy road and doing another inch on my femurs might kinda screw up my femur/tibia ratio...but I have thick/muscular legs, so it should somewhat mask that. Plus, that's only visible when you're nked with a chick. So I feel like the relatively easy extra inch from just re-breaking the femurs and using the nails already inside for another inch could be worth it.

Tibias are a whole different beast that I'm not sure I want to mess with...if they didn't take as long, I'd consider them. But even an inch takes like 5 months, which is bs. And internal tibias are crazy expensive...not to mention the knee pain risk.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on April 30, 2015, 11:37:08 PMLL has actually improved my proportions as far as legs to torso. When I wear a button down shirt and don't tuck it in, I look fantastic whereas previously, I'd be swimming in it. Even when I tuck my shirt in, I look fine.

My only slight concern is taking the easy road and doing another inch on my femurs might kinda screw up my femur/tibia ratio...but I have thick/muscular legs, so it should somewhat mask that. Plus, that's only visible when you're nked with a chick. So I feel like the relatively easy extra inch from just re-breaking the femurs and using the nails already inside for another inch could be worth it.

Tibias are a whole different beast that I'm not sure I want to mess with...if they didn't take as long, I'd consider them. But even an inch takes like 5 months, which is bs. And internal tibias are crazy expensive...not to mention the knee pain risk.

It's not worth it, man. Enjoy your new height! Stop getting caught up in this numbers game. Don't forget that time is a limited resource as well! Don't waste it being handicap for half a year just because of some numbers. Wear some shoe lifts and call it 5'10. Done deal.

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Quote from: DoingItForMe on May 01, 2015, 08:55:32 AM It's not worth it, man. Enjoy your new height! Stop getting caught up in this numbers game. Don't forget that time is a limited resource as well! Don't waste it being handicap for half a year just because of some numbers. Wear some shoe lifts and call it 5'10. Done deal.

You're gonna see after you do LL...don't assume that your final height will be enough to completely satisfy you. I used to not be able to fathom why guys who are already 5'8" (my low evening height is 5'8" on the dot) would want to do LL...now I totally get it. 5'8" is sure an improvement from where I was, but the rods still have an inch on them. And depending on the cost of the re-break surgery and estimated time to squeeze out one more inch, I do believe it's worth it. In the morning when I wake up close to 5'9" right out of bed, I actually do look and feel taller.  I can also afford the extra surgery because I'm likely going to save some money by getting the rods removed with a different doctor other than Guichet (since Guichet I don't believe will be able to use my insurance, but have to ask him). I know Dr. R said he'd remove them for me and he said usually insurance covers the removal under him. So the money I save on the removal can go towards the re-break.  The only sucky part is the time factor, but I would imagine it would be significantly easier and faster for 1 inch as opposed to 2.75 inches I just did. 

I absolutely hate wearing lifts. They just make you feel worse about yourself, and you always feel super short when they come off. And there's always the risk of bringing a girl home and having her catch you, which would be a major turn off. Lifts really don't do much good, unless you're a Hollywood celeb lol.

All this being said - I am still recovering. Maybe I will eventually come to be ok with 5'8", especially as I'm back to my routine (gym, going out, steady women/dating, etc.). But, as everyone who has done LL before me has warned...height gain is VERY addictive. You do this once, you survive, and you realize "wow, I actually CAN change my height"...and for me, one more inch on the rods that already inside should (at least in theory) be a piece of cake compared to what I just did.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on May 01, 2015, 12:46:03 PMYou're gonna see after you do LL...don't assume that your final height will be enough to completely satisfy you. I used to not be able to fathom why guys who are already 5'8" (my low evening height is 5'8" on the dot) would want to do LL...now I totally get it. 5'8" is sure an improvement from where I was, but the rods still have an inch on them. And depending on the cost of the re-break surgery and estimated time to squeeze out one more inch, I do believe it's worth it. In the morning when I wake up close to 5'9" right out of bed, I actually do look and feel taller.  I can also afford the extra surgery because I'm likely going to save some money by getting the rods removed with a different doctor other than Guichet (since Guichet I don't believe will be able to use my insurance, but have to ask him). I know Dr. R said he'd remove them for me and he said usually insurance covers the removal under him. So the money I save on the removal can go towards the re-break.  The only sucky part is the time factor, but I would imagine it would be significantly easier and faster for 1 inch as opposed to 2.75 inches I just did. 

I absolutely hate wearing lifts. They just make you feel worse about yourself, and you always feel super short when they off. And there's always the risk of bringing a girl home and having her catch you, which would be a major turn off. Lifts really don't do much good, unless you're a Hollywood celeb lol.

All this being said - I am still recovering. Maybe I will eventually come to be ok with 5'8", especially as I'm back to my routine (gym, going out, steady women/dating, etc.). But, as everyone who has done LL before me has warned...height gain is VERY addictive. You do this once, you survive, and you realize "wow, I actually CAN change my height"...and for me, one more inch on the rods that already inside should (at least in theory) be a piece of cake compared to what I just did.

Yellow, I just want to warn you that the numbers game trap might never end. I'm a tad over 5' 9" at night, and always said I wouldn't have any height neurosis at 5' 10", but in reality, it is hard to predict, especially because this is mental as much as physical. 5' 8" is in the "normal club" where you won't be considered short, but would you really feel that much different at 5' 9"?

This is a tough one, but I'm facing a similar situation as you are, just that I'm an inch taller. I "think" that extra inch would would make a huge difference, but when it's all said and done, who knows. My MIND might still be messed up at 5' 10"...

Hitting 5' 10" from gluco, inversion, and correcting muscular imbalances would be sweet, but I may be in the same mental state I'm in right now.

And as for the lifts thing.. I see it a either a way to gain some extra height, or to test what it will feel like to be a certain height. You could try 1.5" lifts to test out the 5' 9" to 5' 10" range

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Quote from: NewHeights on May 01, 2015, 01:13:40 PMYellow, I just want to warn you that the numbers game trap might never end. I'm a tad over 5' 9" at night, and always said I wouldn't have any height neurosis at 5' 10", but in reality, it is hard to predict, especially because this is mental as much as physical. 5' 8" is in the "normal club" where you won't be considered short, but would you really feel that much different at 5' 9"?

This is a tough one, but I'm facing a similar situation as you are, just that I'm an inch taller. I "think" that extra inch would would make a huge difference, but when it's all said and done, who knows. My MIND might still be messed up at 5' 10"...

Hitting 5' 10" from gluco, inversion, and correcting muscular imbalances would be sweet, but I may be in the same mental state I'm in right now.

The only reason I'm seriously considering this is because I think since the rods are already inside, surgery should be less invasive, and it should be a faster recovery for only 1 inch. And as you said, 5'8" and above is fine...but my evening height is like 5'8" on the dot, maybe a tad over. That's what scares me. Is a girl going to not be interested in me if I were 2mm below 5'8"? No, of course not. I just don't want to ever measure below it. I guess it's a phobia at this point.

I'll likely never be fully satisfied with my height (whatever height I may end up at, unless I were like 5'10"+, probably not going to happen, which is fine)...and I'll probably never do a tibia LL, because I don't want to mess with them or do another full blown LL. But if I can get one more inch fairly easily and quickly from maxing out the Gnail...why not? I think I'd feel some more closure too, from the knowledge that I maxed out the Gnail (even though it would have taken two surgeries to do).

Tibias just aren't for me I don't think.