Ideal Humerus to Forearm ratio?

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Yeah I agree with this^^

I think a man has girly arms if they are noticeably slim and weak looking.  Also if the shoulders are small and narrow.  As long as you have a decent amount of muscle on your arms the ratio won't be an issue unless it is freakishly unnatural.

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im trying to help you before you make a mistake, Prenatal Testosterone is directly correlated with the ratio, if you have a girls ratio it will look more feminine regardless of muscle. Now adding 1-2cm will give you a feminine ratio, but 3-4cm or more will just look absolutely ridiculous. Im warning you, it wont be a pretty sight, and its worth doing 2cm per arm at best. thats a 4cm increase, which isnt bad and will definitely help.

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Quote from: Shor7Guy on January 31, 2015, 01:32:09 AMim trying to help you before you make a mistake, Prenatal Testosterone is directly correlated with the ratio, if you have a girls ratio it will look more feminine regardless of muscle. Now adding 1-2cm will give you a feminine ratio, but 3-4cm or more will just look absolutely ridiculous. Im warning you, it wont be a pretty sight, and its worth doing 2cm per arm at best. thats a 4cm increase, which isnt bad and will definitely help.

I appreciate the concern, but even if you are right, how do you know what my (or anybody's) ratio is? I've always felt that I've had a short humerus and long forearm

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Quote from: Shor7Guy on January 31, 2015, 01:32:09 AMim trying to help you before you make a mistake, Prenatal Testosterone is directly correlated with the ratio, if you have a girls ratio it will look more feminine regardless of muscle. Now adding 1-2cm will give you a feminine ratio, but 3-4cm or more will just look absolutely ridiculous. Im warning you, it wont be a pretty sight, and its worth doing 2cm per arm at best. thats a 4cm increase, which isnt bad and will definitely help.

Do you have any data to back your words up? I don't think lengthening humerus over 4 cm is a good idea not because it'll make your arms look feminine (that's a new thing lol), but simply because it'll throw your forearm-humerus propotions off. Does lengthening tibias over 2 cms make your legs look feminine too?

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Quote from: exclide on January 31, 2015, 04:45:42 AMDo you have any data to back your words up? I don't think lengthening humerus over 4 cm is a good idea not because it'll make your arms look feminine (that's a new thing lol), but simply because it'll throw your forearm-humerus propotions off. Does lengthening tibias over 2 cms make your legs look feminine too?

LOL @ the tibia..
Yes I would love to know also.

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Quote from: exclide on January 31, 2015, 04:45:42 AMDo you have any data to back your words up? I don't think lengthening humerus over 4 cm is a good idea not because it'll make your arms look feminine (that's a new thing lol), but simply because it'll throw your forearm-humerus propotions off. Does lengthening tibias over 2 cms make your legs look feminine too?

here, prenatal testosterone effects humerus length and it is one of the features used in determining if someone is a tranny. I am not trying to ruin your hopes, just giving information so there are no regrets.

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Quote from: Shor7Guy on February 02, 2015, 03:34:10 AMhere, prenatal testosterone effects humerus length and it is one of the features used in determining if someone is a tranny. I am not trying to ruin your hopes, just giving information so there are no regrets.

http://www.annierichards.com/skeleton.htm
Seriously, that's your source? And they claim that humerus bone is actually longer in females, not even relatively, they say:
QuoteInterestingly, and rather unexpectedly, the average female upper arm bone (humerus) is 1" (2.5 cm) longer than the male upper arm

Which is straight up a lie and nonsense. Here's an actual proof: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/series/sr_11/sr11_252.pdf
Scroll down to "upper arm length". And another one if you wish: http://www.academia.edu/4177167/Sexual_Diamorphism_of_Humerus_A_Study_in_Marathwada_Region

Now, when you've been proven wrong, will you admit defeat?

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Quote from: exclide on February 02, 2015, 07:12:08 AMhttp://www.annierichards.com/skeleton.htm
Seriously, that's your source? And they claim that humerus bone is actually longer in females, not even relatively, they say:Which is straight up a lie and nonsense. Here's an actual proof:

i know they are wrong about upper arm length being shorter in men but they arent wrong in that prenatal testosterone shortens the humerus relative to forearm. you can see it with your eyes, get an arm and lengthen the humerus, then shorten and see how much more feminine/masculine it looks in before and afters.

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Hopefully I can get away with an extra 3CM, that's all I need anyway.

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Quote from: Uppland on February 03, 2015, 10:56:51 AMHopefully I can get away with an extra 3CM, that's all I need anyway.

you have longer arms so 3cm on you would probably just about be ok, youll have to see while your lengthening it. also look into percentiles thoroughly and take measurements before doing it. although to me it sounds like you could get away with 6foot1 without arm lengthening, and clavicle lengthening is there if you want better shoulders for your new height.