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Posted on Dec 19, 2022, 7:53 am
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Guys, does anyone know about doing lengthening tibias with no IM nail? The doctor of mine told me my bone gap was too narrow to put a nail in, and he'd be inserting a smaller nail after I completed lengthening when I come to remove the external fixators.

Is this safe? And issue I would have with non union or deformity?

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Posted on Dec 19, 2022, 8:31 am
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Thats like LATN(lengthening and then nailing) basically, its not new and has been done before.

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Posted on Dec 19, 2022, 9:08 am
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Quote from: LengtheningDream on December 19, 2022, 08:31:09 AMThats like LATN(lengthening and then nailing) basically, its not new and has been done before.


I know, but usually they do with a hexagon lengthening device, not LON

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Posted on Dec 19, 2022, 11:45 am
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Quote from: shortisnotfun on December 19, 2022, 09:08:54 AMI know, but usually they do with a hexagon lengthening device, not LON


LON is not the name of the device but of the technique. The device is called monorail in the case of turkish docs. LON can be done with hexapod as well

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Posted on Dec 20, 2022, 1:28 pm
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Quote from: informationispower on December 19, 2022, 11:45:12 AMLON is not the name of the device but of the technique. The device is called monorail in the case of turkish docs. LON can be done with hexapod as well


My main question would be do you think there would be an issue with alignment or non union because I am lengthening with no IM nail?

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Posted on Dec 20, 2022, 3:00 pm
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There is no problem with external-only LL.  It's the least invasive method.  You don't even need a second major surgery to remove the frames.  It's the best way in my opinion.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2022, 3:12 pm
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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on December 20, 2022, 03:00:28 PMThere is no problem with external-only LL.  It's the least invasive method.  You don't even need a second major surgery to remove the frames.  It's the best way in my opinion.


I'm confused, I don't need to remove the frames? But my method is monorail. Not hexapod fixator.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2022, 5:41 pm
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The frames can be removed without a major surgery.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2022, 8:17 pm
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Quote from: shortisnotfun on December 20, 2022, 03:12:46 PMI'm confused, I don't need to remove the frames? But my method is monorail. Not hexapod fixator.

I did tibia LL with monorails too. External only. A very easy way to do LL and almost painless, at least for me. But the risk for misalignment is huge. I had a significant misalignment in my right foot that I fixed with a titanium plate 5 years after I finished LL. My left leg has also a slight misalignment but nothing important.

Generally speaking, tibia LL with monorails only is relatively rare and if you end up without a misalignment you will be vert lucky. That said, it is by far the easiest way to do LL and has the less invasive surgery out of any other way as it needs even less drills than Ilizarov and of course nothing inside your bone.

But thats not LON as the title of the topic said. It is externals only with monorails.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2022, 8:36 pm
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Quote from: Body Builder on December 20, 2022, 08:17:17 PMI did tibia LL with monorails too. External only. A very easy way to do LL and almost painless, at least for me. But the risk for misalignment is huge. I had a significant misalignment in my right foot that I fixed with a titanium plate 5 years after I finished LL. My left leg has also a slight misalignment but nothing important.

Generally speaking, tibia LL with monorails only is relatively rare and if you end up without a misalignment you will be vert lucky. That said, it is by far the easiest way to do LL and has the less invasive surgery out of any other way as it needs even less drills than Ilizarov and of course nothing inside your bone.

But thats not LON as the title of the topic said. It is externals only with monorails.


And how about TSF externals only? Is there any misalignment risk? I thought that external frames are used to fix bow/x-legs and any misalignment issues.

Also, could you showering from the beginning?

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