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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 2:02 am
#11

10cm is easy, even kids do more (the ones that have achondroplasia), but your tibia-femur proportions may not look very good, you have to judge by yourself. And it will require you some agressive PT to stretch your achilles tendon, else you'll need a surgery to cut (release) it. You'll also need to work on your knee, your hamstrings and gastrocnemius will be very tight from such lengthening and you wont be able to straigthen your legs fully! You will recover fully, if you exercise daily, there's no data I can find that shows correlation between amount lengthened and lost muscle strength.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20298828
There was no association between muscle strength and the amount of lengthening that had been undertaken.

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 2:04 am
#12

My advice is to lengthen to 5CM. If you are completely complication free, go to 6. If you're still fine, go to 7 etc. If ballerina starts to appear or you have any difficulty walking, stop lengthening until these issues fully resolved themselves. If your bones consolidate before these issues are solved, then just be happy that you got some additional height. If they don't consolidate by the time your complications clear up, then press on until you either reach 10CM or can't recover from the complications before bone consolidation. Good luck!

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 2:08 am
#13

Quote from: exclide on August 14, 2014, 02:02:49 AM10cm is easy, even kids do more (the ones that have achondroplasia), but your tibia-femur proportions may not look very good, you have to judge by yourself. And it will require you some agressive PT to stretch your achilles tendon, else you'll need a surgery to cut (release) it. You'll also need to work on your knee, your hamstrings and gastrocnemius will be very tight from such lengthening and you wont be able to straigthen your legs fully! You will recover fully, if you exercise daily, there's no data I can find that shows correlation between amount lengthened and lost muscle strength.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20298828
There was no association between muscle strength and the amount of lengthening that had been undertaken.

Achondroplasia patients can lengthen much, much more easily than healthy cosmetic LL patients. You see, achondroplasia patients' muscles were meant to be longer and were never able to grow to its intended length, but their soft tissue is "made" to be stretched unlike ours. So, kids with achondroplasia will have the easiest time of all, especially since their levels of hormones such as HGH are naturally very high, allowing muscles to adapt and grow instead of stretching. This is not the case in adults.

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 2:25 am
#14

Quote from: Tall on August 14, 2014, 02:08:26 AMYou see, achondroplasia patients' muscles were meant to be longer and were never able to grow to propose length, but their soft tissue is "made" to be stretched unlike ours
Sorry, you're talking complete nonsense. Try to actually find data to backup your statement. I know for sure that those kids also get the very same complications, that adults do, there are papers with statistics showing mean amount lengthened, ROM after lengthening and ROM 1 year after removing frames. It's on russian anyways, so you wont understand. Also, take a look at the link in my previous message, it clearly states that there is no correlation between amount lengthened and muscle strength. Also, no one is stopping you from taking HGH, it's proven to also speed up bone consolidation.

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 2:48 am
#15

Your muscle will never be explosive again after 10cm.

There is do much more to it than just bones and muscles.

It's frightening to see individuals totaly believe that 10cm is easy or that they wiLL Forumully recover. Christ!!

Being stronger after LL doesn't say more than the actual person can push more weights at the gym. Anyone can do that but jumping high or doing backflips is something different which he will never be able to do again.

To kick fast is also impossible after LL or to do a spinning round kick bc your longer leg breaks up the speed when you're spinning.

Not that you need to be able to do this, but 10cm is devastating for your body. It will also look very weird.

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 2:57 am
#16

Quote from: Sweden on August 14, 2014, 02:48:31 AMYour muscle will never be explosive again after 10cm.

There is do much more to it than just bones and muscles.

It's frightening to see individuals totaly believe that 10cm is easy or that they wiLL Forumully recover. Christ!!

Being stronger after LL doesn't say more than the actual person can push more weights at the gym. Anyone can do that but jumping high or doing backflips is something different which he will never be able to do again.

To kick fast is also impossible after LL or to do a spinning round kick bc your longer leg breaks up the speed when you're spinning.

Not that you need to be able to do this, but 10cm is devastating for your body. It will also look very weird.

While i agree with you that full 100% recovery isnt possible if you go beyond the safe limit (5 or 6 cm) in terms of muscle strength and tendon flexibility etc, i think part of the reason why you cant kick fast anymore is because of the extra weight from the internal nails you are carrying in your tibias. The other reason is because you probably havent finished recovering yet.

just a guess, i dont know how much the nail weighs..maybe its not heavy at all.

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 3:38 am
#17

Quote from: Sweden on August 14, 2014, 02:48:31 AMjumping high or doing backflips is something different which he will never be able to do again.
I don't see a reason why. As someone stated, you still have the rods in your legs and you're also not at the 2 years mark, so you're recovering still.

QuoteTo kick fast is also impossible after LL or to do a spinning round kick bc your longer leg breaks up the speed when you're spinning. Honestly, that makes zero sense to me, but then again I don't kick. I mean, if you say your longer leg breaks up the speed, wouldn't that mean that someone with naturally long legs won't be able to kick as fast?

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 7:26 am
#18

Doing 10 cm on tibia is not a realistic goal , you are literally planning to ruin ur life .
I did 8 cm on tibia but i really wish i did 6cm at most .
if u r planning to do 10cm then u r putting everything on risk as following ;
propotion , athletic ability , physical apperiance (if people will notice or not) , normal daily function , ankle flexiblity , walking gait , muscle atrophe , mental trauma if something goes wrong , at the most ur life is at RISK so think realistically .
If u want a safe LL and a good recovery then stay in a safe zone .

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 8:41 am
#19

Quote from: Machine on August 14, 2014, 07:26:49 AMpropotion
RGKEY did 9cm on tibia and he looks cool.

Quoteathletic abilityIt's proven to recover fully after 2 years, with no connection to amount lengthened.

Quotephysical apperianceSame as proportions.

Quotenormal daily functionSame as athletic ability.

Quotemuscle atropheMuscles don't atrophy, if you use them. Nothing to do with amount lengthened.

Quotemental trauma if something goes wrongDoesn't happen, unless you're retarded or 5 years old. In either case, you shouldn't be doing LL.

fk your safe zone.

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Posted on Aug 14, 2014, 11:36 am
#20

Ok,this is my first post on this forum.I've been reading almost any thread and I got to say its great so far.I'm serbian guy in my middle 30's and Im considering LL for a long time.I must say,10 cm looks tempting to do on tibias and I think its not impossible or insane to do it.If u do what your doctor tells u to do,PT every day,stretching etc..I think Exclide got a point here.Rgkey done 9,I think 10 is reachable if u are not lazy to do PT.

Greetings Wannabetaller

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