Quote from: LittleWhiteMan on August 20, 2014, 03:34:58 PMThis surgery is a "natural non-naturally forced" surgery right? Like what we are doing is break off our legs to let em grow a little bit more by themselves. Most people believe that they actually put you metals in-between your bones and you will live with them
for all your life... that isn't true right?
Hehe hallo, I am 16 too yet really experienced in this forum and old forum , I am 5'8 but mom is 5'9 and dad 5'10 and I except my 2 years younger brother to be 6-6'2. I consider LL my self,cause I always imagine myself taller. Your are in a bad height(damn genetics 
) BUT you can get to 5'7 which Is a fantastic height (imagine 5'8.5 with proper shoes 
) what i suggest you is to save some money for internal femurs.Do 3-4 inches (better 3.5 to 3) and then shoot 2.5 to 3 on tibias with externals in Russia.what is your winspan
16 and thinking about Limb Lengthening as an option (please read)
Quote from: exclide on August 19, 2014, 06:48:16 AMYou can use HGH on your offsprings so they grow any height you want. Just make sure you don't wait 'till they're 16.
You can do quadrilateral lengthening with Dr. Paley for a total of 4-5 inches of safe height gain, but it's pricey. Though I feel like it'll be the best option for you because it's FAST and he's from the US. Time is really a huge deal, when you're going for both tibia and femur lengthening.
And just tell your parents you'd rather kill yourself than live at your current height, they should feel it's a real problem for you, as it is. That should work.
I wish my parents used HGH on me (although it's illegal here). My parents are morons - they just think you should work hard in life, not care about looks, and none of this stuff matters. I remember going for a different haircut one time and paying like 10 times the price I normally would, and I got no end of crap from my parents saying 'whats the point, why do you care that much what you look like, are you trying to impress some girls, why did you spend that much money on a haircut?'. Complete idiots, they're so out of touch with modern society. Looks (including height) are a huge deal for me and so many people in society. It wasn't until I was 18/19 that I started to realise this and it hit me with a huge depression/realisation that I've never had before in life.
Anyway, rant over. 
I think your parents want the best for you from what they know.
Don't recent them just bc they don't understand you.
You should always work hard in your life, but not foolish hard.
Quote from: Sweden on August 21, 2014, 10:54:06 PMI think your parents want the best for you from what they know.
Don't recent them just bc they don't understand you.
You should always work hard in your life, but not foolish hard.
Yeah exactly, i can understand him though, my parents are like in their late 50s so their generation was entirely different from how it is today, I was initially annoyed how they didnt understand that looks and status are very important for a successful and eventful life today.
However i have stopped being annoyed with them and instead i realize i should be annoyed at todays society, and the pathetic values the youth of my generation has. I wasnt like them at first but i will never feel fulfilled unless i can get even with the arrogant s ive met and surely will meet in the future. So i have to play by the modern rules.
I respect my parents for having good old school values such as being humble, helpful etc and working hard mainly to take care of the family, not for their image and career.
I understand that this is an old thread, but you actually need about 8 more inches on your legs to reach golden ratio proportions. If you are feeling wild, my friend, go for 4 inches per leg segment. You'd be an inspiration to is all!
P.s. If you are going to do that much, only use internals!!!
read rothbard is correct about the golden ratio. however you would still have short arms hands, shoulder with. so it is probably a better idea to stay below the golden ratio to still look normal.
if your golden ratio for height is normal, and your golden ratio for all other aspects of your body are small, it will look weird.
also you want to remain functional and working. after 8 inches that wont happen.
the most I would ever recommend would be 7.5 cm per segment. and that is going to result in loos of function to a degree.
to stay safe you best stick to (6cm tibia and 6cm femur) while at 100% current function.
unless you want (7.5cm tibia and 7.5cm femur) whilst at about 70% your current function.
being shorter means your body cant lengthen as much as someone who is naturally taller.
I can't say for certain that he won't get back to normal at 8 more inches. Very few people have done that much before. However, Paley does do 8 cm in the femurs and he says that all of his patients recover athletic ability back. 10 cm in each leg segment isn't going to work for most people, though, I agree--only the young and very fit will be able to pull it off (according to Dr. Guichet). If he was going to do that, it would be a lot of work, PT and strength training, to return to normal.
I agree that gitchet would be the best option for such an endeavor.
but there has never been a single person to do 8 inches (who wasn't a dwarf) and recovered.
in fact all the people who did greater than 15cm look to be permanently crippled for years.
Quote from: GROWtalORdieTRYING1 on October 06, 2014, 02:56:26 PMI agree that gitchet would be the best option for such an endeavor.
but there has never been a single person to do 8 inches (who wasn't a dwarf) and recovered.
in fact all the people who did greater than 15cm look to be permanently crippled for years.
Isn't that what happened to Crazy 6 from old forum ?
yes, but arguably crazy 6 had a bad doctor.
still regardless of any doctor no one has ever produced a diary of more than 15cm where the result was not permanently being crippled.
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