Quote from: Chris on April 10, 2017, 11:06:26 PM
Are you still going to post pictures of you?
You came here for advice, but you fight everyone and everything, just because you don't like to read what experienced LLers tell you.
You accuse friendly users of not helping, even though they clearly try to, but to this point, you have never done anything to help them by providing the material you promised.
You yourself are off-topic.
You want to know if a total gain of 4 inches might skew your proportions and if they think that an increase in total of 10 cm would be too much.
It's your own fault which direction this thread is taking.
Be yourself "useful" and post your pictures, then you will get your answers.
And don't even try to argue with me over this!
Jesus Christ, you came with a vengeance from that other thread. Calm down. First of all, Chris, I never fought with anyone here, I only argued with my own experiences and beliefs. What everyone is doing.
My inquiry was obviously about proportions, but everyone seemed to swerve away from that (or actually not tackle the subject AT ALL. Only one guy in this whole thread even MENTIONED proportions). I'm not the one digressing. No one here said a total increase of 10 CM would be too much after taking into account my proportions and my numbers, they just straight up told me that my feelings are invalid because I'm already "tall" to them. I understand I may be a pain in the ass, but I'm trying to be reasonable here. Mental body image issues, or dysmorphia, are not exclusive to a certain height. It doesn't really make me feel all that great when a guy comes in and says: "You are by normal standards tall, therefore all of your insecurities, and body image issues are irrelevant". Granted, some guys here were great, insightful, understanding, and informative, but most weren't, so stop making me look worse than I am. I will post a picture, but the fact that no one even mentioned proportions in the first place, shows that they probably wouldn't have reacted drastically different if I DID provide pictures.
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on April 10, 2017, 11:21:40 PMAs far as I know, mean height in Turkey is a whopping 173 cm. Talk about a confident man who is unhappy at 6 feet in that country. Now I'm sure I'm gonna be told by our new member that the European side of Turkey is much, much taller, and of course young Turks must be easily all be 6'1 and above, because as we've heard countless of times, "the young generation is tall, very tall, belive me, I wouldn't lie to you." Anyway I really believe this forum should have stricter rules for allowing new members, perhaps filling out a short questionnaire while registering plus a personal approval by a moderator would be very advisable to improve the quality of this place. This is above all a forum about a serious matter, so quality is needed. This is a serious suggestion by the way, so now let the drama in this thread continue in 3, 2, 1...
Wow, with utmost respect, you are a bitter f*ck. You don't even take me seriously whatsoever. You can't even BEGIN to consider my issues or pay any respect to me. I never said the average height in Turkey is 6'1". I said the European side of the country has a lot of tall people, and yes, the new generation is taller than the previous one. Are all of my feelings and insecurities suddenly invalid and unworthy of anything just because I'm taller than you? I've seen A LOT of 5'10" guys in here, do you give them this much crap, too?
Quote from: Taciturn on April 10, 2017, 10:32:17 PM
Are you kidding me? Are you telling me guys like Jason Momoa and Chris Hemsworth are all not masculine looking? Just because you're tall, doesn't mean that you need to be skinny. I'm not saying I will look like these guys after I do this surgery, I'm just saying that I would like myself more. And, I doubt it. I doubt any woman would choose a 6'0" guy over a 6'4" guy. Maybe 6'6"+ is far too tall, but 6'4" is awesome. It's really tall, but it's not TOO towering.
Because Momoa is masculine that hasn't to do with all the people of his height.
He is the exception.
And Lee Priest, the legendary bber, looks more masculine than Momoa and he is 5.4. What does that mean? He is an exception too.
And if women would prefer 6.4 ft men from 6 ft, then in almost all surveys the ideal height for men would have been 6.4, not 6 or 6.1 ft. But in all these surveys the best height for men is 6.1 at max.
If you like yourself more do it and become 6.4.
But I am talking objectively and in reality 6.4 is not better from 6-6.1 ft in anything.
Thats what I'm trying to say. You can't do what you want but you can't change the reality which is that men at 6ft have no benefit of doing LL and after 6.3ft height starts to become a drawback, not a benefit.
Thats the truth no matter what you want to do with your body.
Quote from: Body Builder on April 10, 2017, 11:46:46 PMBecause Momoa is masculine that hasn't to do with all the people of his height.
He is the exception.
And Lee Priest, the legendary bber, looks more masculine than Momoa and he is 5.4. What does that mean? He is an exception too.
And if women would prefer 6.4 ft men from 6 ft, then in almost all surveys the ideal height for men would have been 6.4, not 6 or 6.1 ft. But in all these surveys the best height for men is 6.1 at max.
If you like yourself more do it and become 6.4.
But I am talking objectively and in reality 6.4 is not better from 6-6.1 ft in anything.
Thats what I'm trying to say. You can't do what you want but you can't change the reality which is that men at 6ft have no benefit of doing LL and after 6.3ft height starts to become a drawback, not a benefit.
Thats the truth no matter what you want to do with your body.
I totally agree. Men of all heights can be physically masculine, just like men of all heights can be the opposite, regardless of height. Again, I honestly do not care about these surveys, what women think, and what women want when it comes to height. 5'0" guys are getting p*ssy, and 7'0" guys are getting p*ssy. If she's choosing me for my height, I'm not interested in her in the first place. I'm sorry, but objectively, 6'0" is in no way superior to 6'4". 6'0" is good, but 6'4" is better. You're taller than the very vast majority of people, you stand out, but you do not look like a giant, or look too tall, or kind of grotesque like 6'6+ guys do. I am doing this for me. My own desire to be taller.
Oh, and Lee Priest isn't more masculine than Jason. He's more muscular, but that doesn't necessarily translate into more masculine. Lee does have amazing arms, though.
Unless you abnormally have too long tibia or femur or just supper crazy long legs you will look okay. One reason is that you said you would do 2 surgeries and not 1 so one segment won't increase by 10 cm. Also the taller you are the more you can get away with it because it will be a smaller percent of your proportions that will taller which will be more safer and less noticeable. Ironically the shorter guys that need it more will look weird with big amounts, just look at Apotheosis that looks like a preying mantis. And I won't mention your height since I doubt you will get the surgery, you're just a kid and will probably find something else to obsess about later.
Quote from: bander72 on April 11, 2017, 07:54:37 AMUnless you abnormally have too long tibia or femur or just supper crazy long legs you will look okay. One reason is that you said you would do 2 surgeries and not 1 so one segment won't increase by 10 cm. Also the taller you are the more you can get away with it because it will be a smaller percent of your proportions that will taller which will be more safer and less noticeable. Ironically the shorter guys that need it more will look weird with big amounts, just look at Apotheosis that looks like a preying mantis. And I won't mention your height since I doubt you will get the surgery, you're just a kid and will probably find something else to obsess about later.
Why do you doubt it? It's a dream of mine. If I'm by any measure stupid, crazy, or blind to the truth, you are too. You're going from 5'9" to 5'11". Yes, 2 inches is a noticeable difference, but not major at all, and you'd still be pretty close to average height. Whatever, I won't judge you. And yes, the two surgery thing people did clear up for me. It's not worth it to get two.
I'm a kid.....and? Aren't YOU obsessing over it, too? You detest your height so much, that you're going as far as considering undergoing such a major surgery. Great argument.
Quote from: 0184946 on April 10, 2017, 11:04:08 PMexactly, ur height isn't fking up ur life therefore after LL u wont benefit anything. waste of ur money,time and athleticism. bro u are 16 and stressing about this crap that'll cost you thousands of dollars that could've been spent on some other crap. i wish i was naturally 6'0 so i wouldn't have to worry about spending tens of thousands on some dumb ass surgery. you probably won't even get the surgery anyway down the line you'll realize its all in ur head and not worth it. dont you think we all want to be some fkin 6'3 200lbs beast? and yeah i like 6'8 i fantasize about being overly tall and towering over everyone but its all a pipe dream. do what makes u happy its not my legs
What's your height? I mean, I doubt it's fking up your life that much, and if it IS fking up your life, you really think 2 inches will turn your life around? I'm friends with guys shorter than me, and most of them get FAAAAR more girls than me, and no bigger guys bully them or fk with them, so do you really think it's because of your height? Exactly! We all deep down wanna be 6'3, so why are these guys saying "its too tall"? I did say that the benefit is that im gonna like my height more
Quote from: Taciturn on April 11, 2017, 01:13:41 PMWe all deep down wanna be 6'3
No we don't, dude. Don't confuse the fantasies of a 16 year old boy with that of grown up adults.
Quote from: Taciturn on April 11, 2017, 01:13:41 PMWhat's your height? I mean, I doubt it's fking up your life that much, and if it IS fking up your life, you really think 2 inches will turn your life around? I'm friends with guys shorter than me, and most of them get FAAAAR more girls than me, and no bigger guys bully them or fk with them, so do you really think it's because of your height? Exactly! We all deep down wanna be 6'3, so why are these guys saying "its too tall"? I did say that the benefit is that im gonna like my height more
Trust me if you were my starting height you would've already shot yourself in the head. and 2 inches won't change which is why im probably gonna be the next apo to be honest. Also, I've said this before and I'll say it again your friends may be short and getting lots of more females than you but if they were 5'10+ the females would see them as more masculine,alpha whatever. But I'm not undergoing LL to be seen as more alpha. Height is just an addicting thing. Apotheosis for example could've easily stopped lengthening at 5'11 and have been grateful but he wanted more height. Height is an amazing thing. Seeing things that u saw as big aren't so big anymore and ur also engaging with the world in a different way. They don't see you as some manlet midget anymore. Idk why im even talking to a teen. You'll probably naturally forget about height. There are plenty of people that are 6'0 and running healthy happy lives that's the average height for a successful male.
Quote from: 0184946 on April 11, 2017, 03:52:29 PMTrust me if you were my starting height you would've already shot yourself in the head. and 2 inches won't change crap which is why im probably gonna be the next apo to be honest. Also, I've said this before and I'll say it again your friends may be short and getting lots of more females than you but if they were 5'10+ the females would see them as more masculine,alpha whatever. But I'm not undergoing LL to be seen as more alpha. Height is just an addicting thing. Apotheosis for example could've easily stopped lengthening at 5'11 and have been grateful but he wanted more height. Height is an amazing thing. Seeing things that u saw as big aren't so big anymore and ur also engaging with the world in a different way. They don't see you as some manlet midget anymore. Idk why im even talking to a teen. You'll probably naturally forget about height. There are plenty of people that are 6'0 and running healthy happy lives that's the average height for a successful male.
You did nothing but provide more reason for me to lengthen. Come on, dude, 6'4" is SO much better than 6'0". Yes, it's not equal to how much better 6'0" is to being like 5'5", but that's exactly why you fail to see my point. To you, I'm already on the pinnacle, and lengthening would be overdoing it, and the height gain of 4 inches is not worth the pain, money and time, but that's exactly how i see YOUR desires. I've seen 5'0 guys plan to get to 5'4, and im like, is it really worth it? you'd still be considered very short. you're not changing anything. im transitioning from being tall, to being very tall. these guys are going from short, to short. or short, to barley average. what do you think?
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