Quote from: 5ft5 on July 03, 2021, 05:18:54 AMLong torso doesn't look bad. It's something that does get noticed but not in a bad way. My roommate has proportions similar to yours, he's around (176 -178cm) and he did some good work on his shoulders and back. He's never had problems with dating even in a conservative region like South Asia. Of course, he does talk about his proportions sometimes because he was into sports but that's just about it. Take a look at Chris Hemsworth and his related google searches. There's stuff like "chris hemsworth long torso" etc. It's like a fetish. You could always work on broader shoulders.
Another way to think about your proportions now is that IF you get CLL, your proportions would definitely look better with longer legs.
After looking carefully at his pics, he doesn't have an extremely long torso. Spark seems to be Caucasian, which means on average - the average white male have average sized torsos and long femurs. He doesn't have short legs, he has short tibias. Asians (Mongoloids) have long torsos with 1:1 leg ratios on average (Good for swimming and lifting see Michael Phelps) and Black males usually have long legs/wingspans with shorter torsos and very long tibias.
These are averages, you will find all of these variations between all groups of people, including long torsos and wingspans with short legs. (Good for climbing)
If you do CLL, do your tibias.
Red is 1/2
Green is bottom of Kneecap
https://imgur.com/a/LcVkKUr
6'1 with 6'1wingspan, long torso short legs, pics inside, no body harmony at all
Quote from: TouchTheSkies on July 02, 2021, 08:07:02 PMBut bro makeup is different to surgery and months of pain and therapy.
you completely missed the point. We do thing to look better, pain is temporary beauty is forever. And by beauty i mean facial ratios and body ratios. No amount of surgeries will ever make Emma Radunak unnatractive ever, and with the same logic no amount of surgeries will make other female tennis players as attractive as Emma ever no matter what forever.
Quote from: shaddygizmo on July 03, 2021, 04:01:39 AMYou spend way too much on Instagram
Your morphology is tapered towards wrestling, swimming and lifting. You can literally body any person smaller than you with your proportions. In terms of pound for pound strength and lifting weights, your body is a god send. Stop being so dumb bro. A 6'1 person with the same torso length as a 5'5 person would have just as much the same potential upper body strength. Having longer legs makes you a better runner
Just lift, Being a long torso tall dude is the place to be
theres negatives and positives for both long legged short torso and tall torso short legged bodies. Athletisism is cope,what matters is looking good and being aesthetic. Lets say we have a 6ft4 bald indian guy with my proportions and a long midface and recessed jaws, sure he can be athletic and dominate other men in wrestling but who the fk cares about that. No amount of women or people in general will want to associate themselves with that person simply because he has an unnappealing face. Doesnt matter how much he can deadlift or squat, he will never change his facial proportions.
Quote from: Thorfinnn on July 03, 2021, 04:49:37 AMIf 6’1 is “far from ideal height for a man” Then what is the ideal height for a man?
Starting at 6ft3 is and perfect being 6ft4-6ft5 with longer than average legs and long wingspan preferably 6ft7-6ft9
Quote from: 5ft5 on July 03, 2021, 05:18:54 AMLong torso doesn't look bad. It's something that does get noticed but not in a bad way. My roommate has proportions similar to yours, he's around (176 -178cm) and he did some good work on his shoulders and back. He's never had problems with dating even in a conservative region like South Asia. Of course, he does talk about his proportions sometimes because he was into sports but that's just about it. Take a look at Chris Hemsworth and his related google searches. There's stuff like "chris hemsworth long torso" etc. It's like a fetish. You could always work on broader shoulders.
Another way to think about your proportions now is that IF you get CLL, your proportions would definitely look better with longer legs.
the only problem is my wingspan is 6ft1 which is the reason im making this thread, if i had 2-3 inches longer ws i wouldnt be here now.
I never asked about dating so strange you bring it up.
https://imgur.com/9uBwYBW
I do have an amazing body if i want to but again, proportions matter more than being muscular.
Quote from: shaddygizmo on July 03, 2021, 10:21:17 AMAfter looking carefully at his pics, he doesn't have an extremely long torso. Spark seems to be Caucasian, which means on average - the average white male have average sized torsos and long femurs. He doesn't have short legs, he has short tibias. Asians (Mongoloids) have long torsos with 1:1 leg ratios on average (Good for swimming and lifting see Michael Phelps) and Black males usually have long legs/wingspans with shorter torsos and very long tibias.
These are averages, you will find all of these variations between all groups of people, including long torsos and wingspans with short legs. (Good for climbing)
If you do CLL, do your tibias.
Red is 1/2
Green is bottom of Kneecap
https://imgur.com/a/LcVkKUr
Thanx for the analysis, i agree my tibias are shorter compared to the rest of my body but i do think i have a longer torso,when i sit is a confirmation of that cause i sometimes sit higher than men who are 6ft4+
If i do surgery il do 5-6cm max.
Quote from: spark on July 03, 2021, 04:44:34 PMthe only problem is my wingspan is 6ft1 which is the reason im making this thread, if i had 2-3 inches longer ws i wouldnt be here now.
I never asked about dating so strange you bring it up.
https://imgur.com/9uBwYBW
I do have an amazing body if i want to but again, proportions matter more than being muscular.
I get what you're saying but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people. It's nothing body dysmorphia. If you're really into good proportions like the Vitruvian Man (Da Vinci), I reckon you sit down and take some time digging more into body proportions and then see if CLL/arm lengthening can help you achieve it (if that is what you want).
Quote from: spark on July 03, 2021, 04:41:55 PMtheres negatives and positives for both long legged short torso and tall torso short legged bodies. Athletisism is cope,what matters is looking good and being aesthetic. Lets say we have a 6ft4 bald indian guy with my proportions and a long midface and recessed jaws, sure he can be athletic and dominate other men in wrestling but who the fk cares about that. No amount of women or people in general will want to associate themselves with that person simply because he has an unnappealing face. Doesnt matter how much he can deadlift or squat, he will never change his facial proportions.
I got to say it sounds like you have a really unhealthy outlook.
Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing? Why say about midface? It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys!
You didn't mention career or charisma.
6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that
Quote from: 5ft5 on July 03, 2021, 06:55:34 PMI get what you're saying but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people. It's nothing body dysmorphia. If you're really into good proportions like the Vitruvian Man (Da Vinci), I reckon you sit down and take some time digging more into body proportions and then see if CLL/arm lengthening can help you achieve it (if that is what you want).
"but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people" this is where your massively wrong, you have no idea just how much proportions affect others people perception of one self especially with how the body harmonizes the face. A long torso short legs female will get treated waaaaay differently than if she had long legs and a short torso. Its especially apparent in women, hence why female models with long legs look astounding.
Quote from: HeightGain on July 03, 2021, 08:02:38 PMI got to say it sounds like you have a really unhealthy outlook.
Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing? Why say about midface? It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys!
You didn't mention career or charisma.
6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that
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wow we really are talking in different worlds right now. Calling my reality unhealthy without justifying why is a shaming tactic to assert frame in the conversation and set the tone of the judger rather than the one being judged. You talk like a woman but ofcourse what else can i expect from a clearly female gynocentrically conditioned male. I suggest you to read "The rational male" by Rollo Tomassi, read it slowly its a hard truth book that will change your life.
"Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing?" Because its been proven in studies and researches that indian men are by far the least appealing race of men to women, documented anonymously by real women. Bald? Im not even gonna talk about that, any human on this planet who is bald if they had the chance to take a pill that would permanently regrow all their hair they would 10/10 times. Again proven in studies that balding or bald men are less appealing than their own selfs with hair.
"It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys! " The exception doesnt make the rule, did you really think im assuming no indian men are more attractive than white guys? And to speak in your language a bit, why say white men?? whats so healthy about white men that you mention it comparetavely speaking in a higher morality state then indian men?
"You didn't mention career or charisma." LOL
Evidence women are much more superficial and give much more importance to physique than men.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mens-looks-matter-more-than-women-admit-study-shows_us_58ecf563e4b0ca64d91978be
https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html
Manipulative, asympathetic, arrogant bullies have higher numbers of sexual partners and have sex more often.
http://www.wdish.com/life/bullies-sex-study
Bullies have more sex and higher self-esteem.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/
Women really don’t like nice guys.
http://archive.is/e6p19
Unempathethic, narcissistic criminals are one of women’s first sexual choices.
https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf
Women find narcissist s more attractive.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26098378
Bro you are literally living life with your eyes closed. Sometimes i forget just how ignorant the majority of men are toward life, reality and truth.
"6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that" Except when we analyze actual human behavior towards men who are 6ft5 tall and take apart their life experience it would vastly show otherwise. Too bored to find evidence or articles for this but TRUST ME you do not want to see how women really behave with 6ft5+men.
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