Quote from: Whereintheworld? on February 25, 2017, 12:52:13 PMIs it just my eyes, or was his left leg already misaligned as shown in the xray one month before frame removal (page 2)?
This one?
Quotemy last x-ray left leg on 2/28/14
Yes, noticeably so.
Maybe the worst misalignments I ever in LL.
It is surely a doctor's mistake than anything else. You must be a completely incapable doctor to have so bad results with ilizarovs.
This doctor should be avoided at all costs.
Rgkey your bones can be fixed but they need a capable doctor and plenty of time because you'll need more than one osteotomies to each leg to fix all the misalingnments.
Keep strong dude!
Rgkey is very active in the other form. He is not doing well. He can't run, constant aches and pain. I hope he gets his legs fixed asap
Quote from: crimsontide on February 25, 2017, 04:05:41 PMRgkey is very active in the other form. He is not doing well. He can't run, constant aches and pain. I hope he gets his legs fixed asap
Which otherforum?
why would he be in old forum ? and i think the misalignment was caused by too much weight bearing. The video where he was walking with the water made me cringe. I dont think it was dr. barinovs fault he decided to over work his legs while on frames.
Feel sorry for this guy
4 months to consolidate for 9cms is nowhere near enough. He should really have been in his frames for 9-12 months to consolidate but that would test the patience of anyone.
If I were him I'd get them straightened out and 2-3cms taken off. 9cms on tibias is way way too much.
I don't get this. He begged Barinov to take the frames off.. He walked without crutches WHEN Barinov told him to use crutches. Rgkey did NOT listen to Barinov. So Barinov is a bad doctor cause Rgkey didn't listen to him? I truely enjoyed this diary, HOWEVER Barinov should not be blamed when Rgkey did not listen to him and was to busy going on dates instead of focusing on his recovery.
Quote from: Body Builder on February 25, 2017, 03:50:06 PMMaybe the worst misalignments I ever in LL.
It is surely a doctor's mistake than anything else. You must be a completely incapable doctor to have so bad results with ilizarovs.
This doctor should be avoided at all costs.
Rgkey your bones can be fixed but they need a capable doctor and plenty of time because you'll need more than one osteotomies to each leg to fix all the misalingnments.
Keep strong dude!
I was thinking that this misalignment was corrected before removing the frame and then it went bad again when Rgkey started walking without the crutches but this is not possible. Correction take place right after distraction so by the end of consolidation his legs should be perfectly aligned. It seems to be the docs fault.
They offered him some kind of a deal to fix it but I dont know whether this happened or not.
Edit
I looked through the diary in the old forum and this is what rgkey said about left leg
"Nice consolidation! To be honest, though, one of your tibiae seems a bit crooked. Do you have any corrections planned in the future? What does your doctor say about the alignment?" - some dude
actually the bone looks like that because of the correction i got. I had some bowing on my left leg and i developed some x on my right after lengthening, so it was necessary to fix to have perfect straight legs))) If you look at any x-ray of people who had deformities before and after their correction, it will look a little like this x-ray. The most important thing is that the axis are completely straight which they are. I had this concern a while ago even when I saw other peoples x-rays and the doctor makes a joke out of it, he says "what do you prefer, beautiful legs or beautiful bones" - rgkey
I think this alignment thing may be more complicated than we think.
Quote from: Body Builder on February 25, 2017, 03:50:06 PMMaybe the worst misalignments I ever in LL.
It is surely a doctor's mistake than anything else. You must be a completely incapable doctor to have so bad results with ilizarovs.
This doctor should be avoided at all costs.
Rgkey your bones can be fixed but they need a capable doctor and plenty of time because you'll need more than one osteotomies to each leg to fix all the misalingnments.
Keep strong dude!
See mmmnative's diary. In private I could show you more.
Guys I looked through his diary and his alignment on the xrays and there are few things people should know if they think about LL because ive been reading about it for 5 years and still learn.
1. RGkey actually right after frame removal took some pics of his legs and they looked much better to a point where anyone would have said that his legs look absolutely fine. Then he posted pics of his legs when he noticed that they look totaly messed up and then the new xray. Its my assumption but i think he messed up.
2. After looking at his xray I can confidently say that the standards in which doctors make a decision to take the frames off are totally different(I would say country-wise) As far as i know the is the general guild line to assess when a regenerate is consolidated enough to take all the bodyweight. It would make sense since they did tons of research about it.
3. The reality is totally different. When I was in eastern Europe and did my LL i talked to some ppl and they told me that some other folks got misalignment after frames off and i was like WTF? if bone is consolidates it should be all good. I though they talk crap. I talked to my doc and he said it almost impossible but sometime happens(lol) but usually the frames can be taken off after around 4 months and then 2 weeks in casts(actually cast,leg braces and loosing up the rods need discussion too but maybe another time)
5. Now im in the UK and my local doc is using TSF frames etc. I looked through my xray and my consolidation is much, much better than Rgkeys when he got his frames off and still my docs insist of keeping them on until front of the bone is fully consolidated(back of the bone consolidates much faster since its close to you calf)
Conlusion is that:
Russian, eastern Europeans, probably Indians take off frames sooner since patients insist and to a point they got it right because bone does not have to be consolidates form every side to be able weigh bearing. That's why they tell the patients to keep using fking crutches. But those idiots not only stop using crutches but also keep wearing backpacks, elevators shoes etc rather and keep themselves as light as possible.
In western world full of a suing culture they wait till the bone look full consolidated from each side so there is absolutely no chance to get bending or misalignment. Thats why my doc said that when my frames are off the is no need for crutches.
Also there is more to ilizarov frames and correction but im to lazy to write it down. peace.
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