Quote from: southamericanrocker on February 20, 2022, 01:33:00 AMI'm saving most of my income so I can invest my money in real estate, and get the surgery done when I'm 30 (I'm on my mid 20's right now).
Get it done ASAP. Don't be short for five years during which your penis still fully works. Viagra/Cialis are not a 100% perfect time machine back to youth.
Quote from: zaozari on February 20, 2022, 08:43:38 PMI understand your point but I think I was self explanatory also. Let me tell you two curious facts.
The first (I repeat it here sometimes) is that the average height of one of the top military elite forces, the Navy Seals, is ‘’only’’ 5''8'.
The other is a story of mine, when, my forum fellow friend (no irony), I think I JUST *UCK UP YOUR THEORY that:
''If you have to handicap someone in a hypothetical scenario to compete you have already lost''.
I had just withdrawn money from the ATM machine, by night, and when I still hadn't put money in the pocket an entire gang of tall white adolescents literally jumped over me, I fell down on the floor and hold the money tight in my hand; there were already maybe two guys’ weight over my body while maybe 4 or 5 other grabbing me by the legs and rest of the body.
They desperately tried to grab the money. Suddenly I kicked one guy with my foot like a horse, with desperate adrenaline’s brute force and I projected him well around a meter away and still remember the astonishing faces of some. I continued to hold the money as tight as I could while 2 or 3 just tried to open my hand! Finally someone appeared down the street that could see the scene, they finally left….
Yupp: a 5''00 (152cm) guy sometimes can win over a gang of 5''7' guys.
But this story is not about sometimes short people being able to do brave or do hard things (that I already very well know): it’s that short guys tend to have many of what sometimes in biology is called ''red muscle'', which predominantly works with oxygen. Very tall guys have generally less red muscle and have massive ''white muscle'', which works like a missile but during a much shorter period of time (of course to a certain extent you can train and develop both, but with anatomical and physiological limitations.
You see the short guys winning marathons sometimes (sometimes also much taller usually black guys that have a very specific train since childhood and physical constitution). On the other hand, you have the 100m sprinters like Bolt, who run all the 100 m without consuming one single molecule of oxygen but would never run a marathon with a decent time.
So, to sum up, what I want to say here is that if there was not heightism and height neurosis, short people could ''compensate'' with many things, and be as happy or as ''normal'' as others. They tend also for example to have less aortic articulation diseases, apparently (although there are other negative biological issues, also) .
I could save the money probably only because: 1) the gang was taken by surprise by my strenght and quick reaction (they jumped first to the money, not my body, and that surely seemed easy to do, and 2) I could hold it tightly beyond a certain time window, when my red aerobic muscle started to balance and to win over their white anaerobic muscle.
Stories like a short hero beating up or humiliating a gang of tall white guys have been already heard of from another Indian guy who is also advocating to beat up taller white guys and commit intentional injury cases and as I already said, that you won taller guys over grapples and rhubarbs never can be perceived a good proof that you can tap how many girls as you want or even win respects from others cuz it's impossible to tell everyone who is despising your height about those legends to reverse their viewpoints about you instead in some extremises they would even think you are resorting to violence cuz you are too feeling inferior about your height and you had even developed Irritable Personality. Sad but true story.
If you don't buy my 'nonsenses' just ask some girls some questions like 'Which of one will you choose as your dating material? a 6'3 skinny guy who can't beat anyone up or a 4'3 guy who will be the next champion of WWE?' and I think the answers will pretty explain what I am talking about.
You didn't understand my post. But the expression of yours that I quoted is objectively wrong as a generalisation: I just beat the gang. But I didn't imply any "extension" of my story with the gang to getting girls and not having problems with height. What am I doing here?
I just don't understand how you twisted my words to see it as something against you or short people like me. Without false modesty I thought it could even be an inspiring mini story to you too. But by the way (some here are maybe fed up of reading this) I am 152 cm and had 3 wonderful girlfriends (around 155/157 cm tall). So, in my case, I could maybe then say, contradicting you again: yeah, I beat the gang and then "of course" I got a "little trio bunch" of girls.
Quote from: zaozari on February 20, 2022, 10:40:05 PMYou didn't understand my post. But the expression of yours that I quoted is objectively wrong as a generalisation: I just beat the gang. But I didn't imply any "extension" of my story with the gang to getting girls and not having problems with height. What am I doing here?
I just don't understand how you twisted my words to see it as something against you or short people like me. Without false modesty I thought it could even be an inspiring mini story to you too. But by the way (some here are maybe fed up of reading this) I am 152 cm and had 3 wonderful girlfriends (around 155/157 cm tall). So, in my case, I could maybe then say, contradicting you again: yeah, I beat the gang and then "of course" I got a "little trio bunch" of girls.
Alright sorry to have misinterpreted your statements mate that indeed is my fault. But the point of me replying to you consistently is that I don't think except LL you can achieve as many respects as you want unless you are really that famous and holding powers de jure and de facto(remember money cannot achieve 'respects' but only 'Sycophancy') or whatnots and my point is that short men's beating up whoever is taller than him cannot really achieve respects and courtesies but only can prove that you are excellent at grappling with others taller than you.
Quote from: zaozari on February 20, 2022, 01:15:36 PMI'm not sure if I understood well. You mean we all should be the maximum taller possible to able to "win" in any "competing scenario"??
Is this a forum for humans who NEED (and not only for those who legitimatelly want) CLL, by all medical parameters, or are we here in a documentary from David Attenborough about survival of hienas against other beasts in the jungle?
Be free to say whstever you want but try to be reasonable and bring positive contribution. Educate yourself about what means living in HUMAN society instead of being a paradoxical contributor to heightism discrimination right here !!!. I very rarely was badly treated for being short. In high school for example, in fact even the other kids respected me because I integrated, played good soccer, helped them in class, etc. Would you say that everybody shorter than 176 cm (170? 174? I don't know your height) are doomed to tragedy? If this is so, and without being the mod, I would say that, since you don't minimally respect all your "real" short or just shorter fellows here, specially those more clinically, psyhologically and sociological in more urgent need of LL ( if I was around 4 cm shorter, being otherwise healthy or not, I would have surgery paid by the National health system), then you'd have no place here in my opinion, sorry. You're not respecting diversity. If you're within one standard deviation from average height with no other clinical or life story argument, I could more legitimatelly call you a fool than you call me anything else (I'm well below 2 standard deviations). Your mind is totally alienated from what empathy means, you don't know the fundamentals of ethics in medicine, and you're immature and deeply unsensible. You (maybe not aware of it) insult shorther people as crippled, handicaped, lost for life.
If I understood well.
You did not understand well.
What I meant was you have to compare like with like. In his example he should have compared a similar height white man who is also shredded to a latino man who is shredded rather than having to make the white guy skinny so that he "wins".
Example would be if I said I would rather be a handsome black man who is 178cm compared an ugly asian man who is 182cm. See how I stacked the deck in my favor and that the example is unfair? That's what I'm referring to.
I understand that you being 152cm must be incredibly difficult and emasculating and I do feel sorry for you. I'm not sure where the rest of your rant came from and you got triggered quite badly and become unnecessarily aggressive.
By any chance is English your second language? It could be why you didn't understand the context.
Quote from: Highest on February 21, 2022, 04:07:23 AMYou did not understand well.
What I meant was you have to compare like with like. In his example he should have compared a similar height white man who is also shredded to a latino man who is shredded rather than having to make the white guy skinny so that he "wins".
Example would be if I said I would rather be a handsome black man who is 178cm compared an ugly asian man who is 182cm. See how I stacked the deck in my favor and that the example is unfair? That's what I'm referring to.
I understand that you being 152cm must be incredibly difficult and emasculating and I do feel sorry for you. I'm not sure where the rest of your rant came from and you got triggered quite badly and become unnecessarily aggressive.
By any chance is English your second language? It could be why you didn't understand the context.
I also got it. You are arguing against biased comparisons towards certain attributes and we gotta keep the attributes equivalent except those that we use for comparisons. But still I am sticking with my original viewpoints:height is a crucial attribute that is inflexible unless doing LL so that your misinterpreted statements can corroborate it and we gotta realize how important height actually is.
But it's without any courtesy to point out or maybe associate his being that short with being excessively aggressive.
I think he twisted the word 'handicap' and in his eyes he thought you meant 'disability' by 'handicap', one of whose meanings is also 'giving somebody a defect'.
Quote from: PursuerOfHeight on February 21, 2022, 04:29:45 AMI also got it. You are arguing against biased comparisons towards certain attributes and we gotta keep the attributes equivalent except those that we use for comparisons. But still I am sticking with my original viewpoints:height is a crucial attribute that is inflexible unless doing LL so that your misinterpreted statements can corroborate it and we gotta realize how important height actually is.
But it's without any courtesy to point out or maybe associate his being that short with being excessively aggressive.
I think he twisted the word 'handicap' and in his eyes he thought you meant 'disability' by 'handicap', one of w ;Dhose meanings is also 'giving somebody a defect'.
I think we can all agree height is important or else we wouldn't be on this forum 
And yes I think he got confused about handicap context and has had a very hard time in life due to being 152cm which he thought I have no sympathy for him. I understand why he is so sensitive but asking for clarification rather than ranting I shouldn't be on the forum would be a better way to proceed in future.
Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on February 20, 2022, 09:37:14 PMGet it done ASAP. Don't be short for five years during which your penis still fully works. Viagra/Cialis are not a 100% perfect time machine back to youth.
Speaking for a friend though right MDOW? 
Cialis and Viagra both work for my test subject, but both give him headaches and a stuffy nose for hours or days....my test subject had tried many dose sizes and timings...
Quote from: southamericanrocker on February 20, 2022, 01:33:00 AMI'm exactly 160cm and not afraid about sharing my height lol. I feel a lot of people here are mostly passive users (like me). I've lived all my life being the shortest guy wherever I go, so I got used to it but it's still being an annoying feeling. I know is hard for most people that has the same height than me, and I've even found myself lying about my height on dating apps because girls are kind of strict about their height preferences. That's why I don't like dating apps and prefer to meet people in person by going to dance clubs or bars. I guess for the moment all I can do is to compensate my height with my personality and getting bigger at the gym.
I could afford to get the surgery done now, since I'm a Software Engineer in a big tech company, but the problem is that I will end up spending most of my savings if I do it now. I learnt to live with this and to be patient, because I think that isn't a smart financial decision to get surgery done if I can't afford it without getting hit hard on my financial situation. I'm saving most of my income so I can invest my money in real estate, and get the surgery done when I'm 30 (I'm on my mid 20's right now).
Yeah 160cm indeed sucks as hell in America and I can take pity on you cuz 160cm in America is on par with having Macrocephaly and Quadriplegia at the same time. I suggest you should invest most of your savings into this surgery without any residual for the ty real estate which is an abject 'asset' compared to the real precious 'asset' height.
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