Quote from: Serilium on March 30, 2021, 08:23:02 AMI can name some major types of adult shortness:
1) small baby in womb due to some medical issue (sga) so was stunted early on lack of nutrient in mommy stomach but otherwise had a normal growth
2) grow at a consistent rate, but GH deficiency so less growth in general
3) grow normally, was normal height, but earlier plate fusion so stopped growing at age 14
4) genetically short (parents are short and DNA)
i would like to blame 1), but for me it is probably 4), my parents are just short in general, but my brother is a solid 7cm taller than me and he never had SGA
I am the first type too,which also means I was short since I was maturing in the womb.My mom said I was of the same size as my elder female cousin's(She is even skinny as a female).I think nowadays the major reasons why short people are so short are either their growths are stunted cuz of malnutrition(in modern society most cases of malnutrition result from bad digestion imo),medicines,diseases and so on or they are not normal babies.That is to say few short people are short simply cuz of bad genes.
Quote from: Serilium on March 30, 2021, 08:16:04 AMI might've been SGA as well, I was always small, even since age 0 I was on average 2 years shorter than the typical kid my age. I actually end up catching up quite a bit after age 13 and 15 but still ended up 164cm, but I was like in the 1st percentile for majority of life. I do wonder if had I got more nutrients as a newborn or actually got HGH at age 0 (recommended treatment) to become normal baby size then I could end up at least 170cm
If your parents still remember,you can inquire them about whether you are a normal baby.I found that most short people don't put emphasis on their tot growths and healths.
Quote from: Coeus on March 30, 2021, 03:48:33 AMMy elder cousin got worse luck in the height dapartment than mine.His father is 170cm+ and mother is around 160cm but he is only now near 170cm with fat build and his growth stopped.
He had good luck, not bad.
With that parents heights he is lucky to even be 1.70. tha normal would have been something about 1.67-8.
Quote from: Coeus on March 30, 2021, 08:29:33 AMI am the first type too,which also means I was short since I was maturing in the womb.My mom said I was of the same size as my elder female cousin's(She is even skinny as a female).I think nowadays the major reasons why short people are so short are either their growths are stunted cuz of malnutrition(in modern society most cases of malnutrition result from bad digestion imo),medicines,diseases and so on or they are not normal babies.That is to say few short people are short simply cuz of bad genes.
Wrong again. More than 90% of short people are short due to bad genes.
Everything else is nonsense from people like you who believe that your cousin is unfortunate to become 1.70 from 1.70 and 1.60 parents.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 30, 2021, 12:15:12 PMWrong again. More than 90% of short people are short due to bad genes.
Everything else is nonsense from people like you who believe that your cousin is unfortunate to become 1.70 from 1.70 and 1.60 parents.
Nutrition makes more difference than genes. Maybe it's different in the west because everyone has access to good food but in a 3rd world country like India where malnutrition and the child mortality rate is ridiculously high, it's mostly nutrition and not genes. Those who have access to good food are generally tall even if their parents are short.
A lot of arguments and opinions here, but not a lot of scientific evidence (sorry, I dont mean offence by stating this fact).
Let me help with that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27998884/
Adult height of preterm infants: a longitudinal cohort study
"There was no significant difference in the final height SD score (SDS) of children born at term (n=30) and those born prematurely and AGA (n=70)"
"Those born prematurely with an AGA achieve a comparable adult height to children born at term, however, catch-up growth continues for much longer than traditionally thought."
I'm sure many will beg to differ, in which case I implore you to bring some scientific evidence of equal/better value than this study for our collective knowledge and benefit.
Unless you think your opinion is worth more than scientific evidence.....
Quote from: Sibirskiy on March 30, 2021, 03:17:34 PMA lot of arguments and opinions here, but not a lot of scientific evidence (sorry, I dont mean offence by stating this fact).
Let me help with that: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27998884/
Adult height of preterm infants: a longitudinal cohort study
"There was no significant difference in the final height SD score (SDS) of children born at term (n=30) and those born prematurely and AGA (n=70)"
"Those born prematurely with an AGA achieve a comparable adult height to children born at term, however, catch-up growth continues for much longer than traditionally thought."
I'm sure many will beg to differ, in which case I implore you to bring some scientific evidence of equal/better value than this study for our collective knowledge and benefit.
Unless you think your opinion is worth more than scientific evidence.....
I've known SGA and AGA wont have difference in adult heights but again,unless babies can have access to enough food,what Ive mentioned above in my post.But some of SGA are born earlier just cuz of malnutrition,which caused by lack of family finances or ingestions.If SGA can take in rich nutritions of course he or she can catch up other normal babies' heights.
the human body is remarkable, catch up growth is quite a miraculous phenomenon. you can starve a kid for decades stunting them and malnourishing them to the point puberty doesnt even happen- then at age 19 finally feed them normal amounts of food and the kid will go through puberty and grow and catch-up almost completely, obviously this is an extreme example and is universally cases of abuse and neglect.. but im sure there is minor catch up growth for instances of SGA (that is true sga and not just genetically short kids)
Quote from: indian on March 30, 2021, 02:23:39 PMNutrition makes more difference than genes. Maybe it's different in the west because everyone has access to good food but in a 3rd world country like India where malnutrition and the child mortality rate is ridiculously high, it's mostly nutrition and not genes. Those who have access to good food are generally tall even if their parents are short.
Nutrition makes more difference if a kid is starving. Literally not anyone here, who has even internet, is starving because people who don't have even food don't care about LL, they have much more important things to care.
So someone here telling that nutrition stunted his growth is a joke.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 30, 2021, 05:57:43 PMNutrition makes more difference if a kid is starving. Literally not anyone here, who has even internet, is starving because people who don't have even food don't care about LL, they have much more important things to care.
So someone here telling that nutrition stunted his growth is a joke.
A quick google search proves you completely wrong. Even my case, poor nutrition literally stunned my growth. My mom is 165cm and my dad is 179cm. My younger brother who is 19 is 182cm and my 14 year old sister is already 173cm, and taller then me I am only 168cm. In my case I was overweight as a kid and tall, the doctor told me I was at risk for diabetes and heart attacks this was when I was 10, because I was slightly overweight by about 10 pounds. Immediately after that I put myself on an extreme diet and lost almost 20 pounds in over a month and become underweight, and at that point the doctors thought I had cancer because of the rapid weight loss. Once all the tests came back and they determined I did not have cancer they told me to put on weight. Since I was a kid I was being stupid and I was scared of getting diabetes, since my parents have it, so I made sure to maintain my weight under 100 pounds I did this till I was 16 when I finally decided to put some weight. At 17 I was only 165cm same height I was at 14 and only 120 pounds, so I did not grow a single cm after 3 years. After I graduated from high school I started working out and putting on weight, I put on about 40 pounds between the age of 18-20 and I grew to 168cm. This proved to me that nutrition is very important, unfortunately I learned that too late. My younger siblings both are slightly overweight, going by BMI, and are both considered tall, opposite of me who was underweight and is now short. I asked my doctor about this, and he said nutrition was most likely the reasoning for my short height since nutrition is very important in early years. There was a study conducted in Japan where they saw height increase 3 inches, years after WW2 because people started eating more fish and getting more protein. If I was short due to genetics I probably would have came to terms with my height but the fact that I'm short due to my own and the doctor's stupidity, is literally eating me up.
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