Average height by country

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Quote from: Body Builder on March 27, 2021, 04:47:34 PMIt is a joke that China has an 1,75 average and japan 1.72. Even 1,70 is much for China but 1,75 is really a joke.

I find it suspect as well, but they are taking the source material from 42 different studies in China, and some of them are measured and not self-reported heights. The 2019 height is about the same as Korea, which seems somewhat reasonable? (Though I've never been there so I can't confirm.) I believe the height for Japan though, they are not very tall.

Then again, I was in Amsterdam last year (pre-surgery) and it didn't feel to me like the average person was much taller than the average American, so I guess sample size and bias matters a lot.

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South China is very short, like 169-170 cm average for youth. North China is like 173-174. Higher you go the taller. These reports are likely sample bias towards northern area- if you did the actual average of ALL of China it definitely wouldn't be 175cm. But there are North China places where 174cm average is legit, not many though- minority.

Additionally China is the most heightist country in the world. Short people get treated like disabled people. It is disgusting and I completely empathize with anyone who is short in China. You essentially have to be very rich or have a green card to the USA to get married as a short man in China. I am the product of a marry-for-immigration parents of China. There are entire rural villages with unmarried men- somewhat due to the excess of men but undoubtedly also due to heightism- when women can choose such as with the one child policy causing millions more men than women- women will not choose a short guy.

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Quote from: Serilium on March 27, 2021, 05:08:00 PMSouth China is very short, like 169-170 cm average for youth. North China is like 173-174. Higher you go the taller. These reports are likely sample bias towards northern area- if you did the actual average of ALL of China it definitely wouldn't be 175cm. But there are North China places where 174cm average is legit, not many though- minority.

Additionally China is the most heightist country in the world. Short people get treated like disabled people. It is disgusting and I completely empathize with anyone who is short in China. You essentially have to be very rich or have a green card to the USA to get married as a short man in China. I am the product of a marry-for-immigration parents of China. There are entire rural villages with unmarried men- somewhat due to the excess of men but undoubtedly also due to heightism- when women can choose such as with the one child policy causing millions more men than women- women will not choose a short guy.
Well said. In China, height is almost everything. A comoletely stupid prejudice and anyone can understand how low is the mental level of people who think like that.

However, that means that many exaggerate a lot about their heights.
Chinese can no way be taller as an average than Japanese or the same as Koreans.
The first have way worse living standards and way more poverty than Japan and South Korea, two of the most advanced and rich countries in the world.
The average of Chinese people can't be much more than North Korea and Vietnam where it is 1.65-6 so the maximum for young Chinese men is 1.70.

Anyway, personally I don't care about averqge heights and all these bs. I believe that above 1.75 it is a truly respectable height and above 1.70 you are not considered short, even if the average Dutch is 1.90 or whatever.
What matters is how a man's body looks aesthetic and above 1.75 (maybe even 1.70) anyone can look good with a fit body, no matter what country you are in.

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China is two countries: a billion peasants and 300 million people who live at about the level of second-tier European countries like Portugal or Greece.

An average doesn't mean much there.

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Quote from: BelowTheMean on March 26, 2021, 11:06:33 PM

-Average height of 19-year old men in the US in 1985: 175.8 cm
-Average height of 19-year old men in the US in 2019: 176.9 cm (rank 48)
My thought on this one is that it's due to demographic change. The average height of white guys in the US is probably around 178-180cm.
I don't think your theory is correct. I have read before that immigrants after 2 generations are usually in the same height range as the people who's families have been living there for a while. If you compare African-Americans to White Americans, you will see that they have a similar average height. In the study you linked one of the sources was this "Child height and intergenerational transmission of health: Evidence from ethnic Indians in England" In this study it mentioned that Ethnic Indians (Not sure what an Ethnic Indian is, since Indian is a nationality) were still shorter than Whites, but a lot taller than Indians living in India the difference being around 6-7cm. So in another generation this difference could be even bigger and the gap between the Whites would also close. Helping to backup the previous study I had read.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 27, 2021, 09:13:53 PMChina is two countries: a billion peasants and 300 million people who live at about the level of second-tier European countries like Portugal or Greece.

An average doesn't mean much there.

It's the same in India. Except for maybe more peasants.

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The height of subsets of populations is relevant because whatever your age or occupation you typically interact with subsets of the population.

If you are part of the wealthy, highly educated, subset that is what is relevant to you. I don't care what height people are in China because I have little interaction with people that live in China.

You might not like it and might not believe it if you don't study or work in these environments but 178cm is short.

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Quote from: HeightGain on March 28, 2021, 09:04:46 AMThe height of subsets of populations is relevant because whatever your age or occupation you typically interact with subsets of the population.

If you are part of the wealthy, highly educated, subset that is what is relevant to you. I don't care what height people are in China because I have little interaction with people that live in China.

You might not like it and might not believe it if you don't study or work in these environments but 178cm is short.

It's not depressingly short you can wear 2' lifts and get 6". If you'll say 178 cm is short then what will you say for someone who is 152 cm.

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Quote from: indian on March 28, 2021, 10:30:15 AMIt's not depressingly short you can wear 2' lifts and get 6". If you'll say 178 cm is short then what will you say for someone who is 152 cm.
Average heights of environments can crucially differ from each other.Once I heard one man who is 180cmish said he was considered as a monster travelling in Guangxi Province.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on March 27, 2021, 09:13:53 PMChina is two countries: a billion peasants and 300 million people who live at about the level of second-tier European countries like Portugal or Greece.

An average doesn't mean much there.
Lancet just did some counting jobs but not measuring jobs.Once they counted North Korea female average heights as 169cm.So I think Lancet used correct calculation methods but they themselves referred from false data by accident.Actually this result is considered suspectful even in China(You can see some netizens who is strict with height are arguing on this result although the others accept it cuz millenials are of course taller than Chineses in 80's).I think Lancet referred from those data biased towards the North China(Although many North regions's average heights can't reach that number).