Fine u r correct you are true u can lengthen 16 cm by two surgeries in the femurs
But no one have done it before maybe patients with actual high dwarfism
So go and do the 16 cm and make a diary I would like to find how will you do
If you didn’t get complications and started walking good
I will do the same
But we have a problem who is the surgeon in the world who will do that for you
And if he accepted will you feel safe in his hands
Lmfoa
+ u will remove a nail and then insert it again at the same bone femur if u done precice or betz
But if you did externals the will be removed then after a year back again
(Lon and lizarov too) you will be having more and more nails getting outside and inside your bone
All this trauma in your bones for something u can avoid by just doing another 8 in the tibia this 8 is considered for many surgeons as impossible done in one go
Cuz the Achilles tendon and u break 2 bones :tibia and febula
But for many other surgeons it is possible and way better to do 4 cm in tibia after a year do another 4
You well get complications but not that bad
So thats 8 from tibia
Come back and do the femur u can do the 8 in one go
Or divide it as you wish
Lengthening only from one bone 16 cm is the most stupid thing I have ever heard of
Just to let u know
The body contains cells a group of cells makes tissues
Tissues make an organ and organs work in systems
The systems work to maintain the body
U aren’t a bone only
Quote from: Cll123 on September 04, 2024, 05:07:35 PMFine u r correct you are true u can lengthen 16 cm by two surgeries in the femurs
But no one have done it before maybe patients with actual high dwarfism
So go and do the 16 cm and make a diary I would like to find how will you do
If you didn’t get complications and started walking good
I will do the same
But we have a problem who is the surgeon in the world who will do that for you
And if he accepted will you feel safe in his hands
Lmfoa
+ u will remove a nail and then insert it again at the same bone femur if u done precice or betz
But if you did externals the will be removed then after a year back again
(Lon and lizarov too) you will be having more and more nails getting outside and inside your bone
All this trauma in your bones for something u can avoid by just doing another 8 in the tibia this 8 is considered for many surgeons as impossible done in one go
Cuz the Achilles tendon and u break 2 bones :tibia and febula
But for many other surgeons it is possible and way better to do 4 cm in tibia after a year do another 4
You well get complications but not that bad
So thats 8 from tibia
Come back and do the femur u can do the 8 in one go
Or divide it as you wish
Lengthening only from one bone 16 cm is the most stupid thing I have ever heard of
Just to let u know
The body contains cells a group of cells makes tissues
Tissues make an organ and organs work in systems
The systems work to maintain the body
U aren’t a bone only
You can find the right surgeon without telling him how much you are planning to lengthen. Most doctors allow you to operate on the same bone after it's consolidated from the first surgery. After the operation, only you decide how much you are going to lengthen. They can't do anything about it, it is your money and you paid for the full thing.
My goal is to do the first surgery in 2025 (assuming I've stopped growing), and then wait a year or so for consolidation till I am allowed to repeat. I am probably going to do this using Precice, as it is currently considered the safest. And yes, I am going to write a detailed scientific diary as my case should be of great importance to the LL community as a whole.
I am still researching the part on how soft tissues adapt to lengthening, and even though there aren't a lot of studies on that, I couldn't manage to find anything that refutes the claim that tissues can and do adapt. See this study, for example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9167625/. However, we still need new studies for how well soft tissues adapt at larger lengthenings over 10+ cm.
Looks like I am the most determined person on this forum, after all lol.
Ok u paid for the first surgery
Then you consolidated which takes a 1.5-2years
U need to fully consolidate so that they can remove the precice nail
Then u removed the nail
Went to another doctor cuz the same one will probably refuse
U went to another one to plant a new precice nail again in your femur
All of that to get 16 cm from the femurs
u gonna pay the exact same amount for doing the femur and tibia and getting the 16 cm
And it will be safer
Work smart not hard
Quote from: Cll123 on September 04, 2024, 05:44:31 PMOk u paid for the first surgery
Then you consolidated which takes a 1.5-2years
U need to fully consolidate so that they can remove the precice nail
Then u removed the nail
Went to another doctor cuz the same one will probably refuse
U went to another one to plant a new precice nail again in your femur
All of that to get 16 cm from the femurs
u gonna pay the exact same amount for doing the femur and tibia and getting the 16 cm
And it will be safer
Work smart not hard
Yeah if you are talking about me specifically, then yes. But I am talking about if someone also wants to repeat the same procedure on the tibias. Thus, theoretically it is possible to gain the maximum of 28 cm lengthening. 16 (8+8) cm femurs, 12 (6+6) cm tibias.
Quote from: heightiseverything on September 04, 2024, 07:20:02 PMYeah if you are talking about me specifically, then yes. But I am talking about if someone also wants to repeat the same procedure on the tibias. Thus, theoretically it is possible to gain the maximum of 28 cm lengthening. 16 (8+8) cm femurs, 12 (6+6) cm tibias.
We are awaiting for.you to be the first man in the world to get 28cm of lengthening or at least 16cm on femurs.
Too bad it won't happen and you just keep posting here nonsense.
Quote from: Body Builder on September 04, 2024, 10:42:12 PMWe are awaiting for.you to be the first man in the world to get 28cm of lengthening or at least 16cm on femurs.
Too bad it won't happen and you just keep posting here nonsense.
You seriously think no one has ever done 28 cm of lengthening? What about people with dwarfism on the Paley study? These people have done 25+ cm successfully, rendering your statement useless.
Given that I don’t have dwarfism in particular, I probably will be the first one with over 20 cm lengthening. And I can assure you it will happen as I refuse to live my life with regret, so don’t worry about this one.
Quote from: heightiseverything on September 04, 2024, 10:51:15 PMYou seriously think no one has ever done 28 cm of lengthening? What about people with dwarfism on the Paley study? These people have done 25+ cm successfully, rendering your statement useless.
Given that I don’t have dwarfism in particular, I probably will be the first one with over 20 cm lengthening. And I can assure you it will happen as I refuse to live my life with regret, so don’t worry about this one.
We are talking about normal people, not dwarves.
Ok, I will await for seeing you achieving 20cm. Good luck with that.
I am waiting too
Plz if u did it make a diary I’ll support u as u go through
But trust me doing all of this it will take more effort and time at least 5-6years to be normal
And also money
+ good luck finding a reputable surgeon
Its your body do whatever u want with it but search before u do anything
And ask many surgeons if your plan is feasible without jeopardizing your health (I doubt that but I am not a doctor )
But trust me I don’t know your height but if you will reach the average height by doing 8 -16
No need to do more
Trust me
After reaching the average its all about different aspects not only height
Like personality and how successful are u in your life and career
How fit u are
All these things
Quote from: Robert Adam on September 05, 2024, 11:55:20 AMYou cannot extend one bone by 16 cm. You can extend the tibia by 4 cm and the femur by 4 cm, and after a minimum of a year, you can extend the tibia by 4 cm and the femur by 4 cm again.
The question is why would you stop lengthening at 4 cm, if the maximum safe amounts are 8 cm and 6 cm, respectively? The maximum you can gain is 28 cm from this surgery if you repeat that after a minimum of one year.
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