Quote from: SAD on March 28, 2017, 03:50:56 AMfujitora's had it tough, but made it through!
I just hope his experiences with doctors aren't representative of all doctors in India. Accepting a cosmetic patient and then disagreeing with the motive behind the surgery is pure nonsense.
What everyone wants to know if it was all worth it for you, though 
Yes man. I took my first step yesterday with crutches. I could feel the strength and was confident that I can walk without support. However, I didn't want to rush. I'll wait for couple more days and then start taking full weight. I'll let you know once I go back to my previous life if it's all worth it or not.
Quote from: 682 on March 28, 2017, 04:28:17 PMFujitora, thank you for sharing your experience with great detail, it truly is appreciated.
Your advice on what to expect for those considering the procedure in India is honest and ought to be read by any prospective patient considering going there, personally, if I were to consider undergoing the procedure, your information on what to expect would be enough to make me rule out India entirely as an option whereas others may not. I appreciate that you have provided clear cut and in depth answers of what to expect to inform prospective patients and then leave it to those who have read it to do what they wish with that information, to make an informed decision rather than personal recommendation or condemnation with no elaboration as to why.
Thanks man. I made this post in the right spirit and you couldn't have said it better.
Quote from: Body Builder on March 29, 2017, 12:25:49 AMSo in a few words, avoid India at all costs.
It is obviously the worst country for anyone to do LL. After all we are doing this to become taller, not cripples due to irresponsible and incapable doctors.
And the strong majority of LL'ers who had terrible results came from India.
Fujitora you had a tough LL journey but you did it.
Keep strong!
Thanks Man. I completely agree that India is not an ideal option for this journey, especially for westerners. However, I'm pretty sure that many would still consider it, in spite of all the warnings. The pricing and cost of living here makes it very enticing. The post I made is dedicated for those.
Bilateral Tibia Lengthening and Varus correction with TSF
Back to regular life, Things are not as wonderful as I had expected
Hi, I went back home and got to meet my family and few very close friends. This might sound unbelievable but none of them have noticed that my height is increased. In fact, unless I stand very close to them, I don't notice it either. I left markings in my room before I began this journey. I now stood at the same place and cross checked. The difference is so small, it's barely visible. I went out shopping today with one of my friend who is 5'2" (an inch shorter than my old height) and he has not mentioned even once that I look a bit taller now. I felt little sad that my 1 year effort is worth nothing. I wanted someone to notice so that I can satisfy my ego. For those of you who asked me in the past if this journey is worth it, I would say it isn't for 5 cm gain. It's barely noticeable and the price you pay and the risk you take would be absurdly high to justify the gain.
What stands out more is the fact that I'm walking slowly and carefully, and the braces that I wear inside my trousers. I told them that I got into an accident and they believed it. They don't even doubt that I did something like LL because my height gain is not noticeable. Honestly, I don't even know how to react at this point. Should I be happy that they don't suspect that I did LL, or should I be pissed that my height gain is not evident ?
How tall is 165cm in india?
And that sound strange as 5cm is an evident difference... Maybe you didn't gain 5cm?
Quote from: fujitora on April 16, 2017, 07:21:47 PMBack to regular life, Things are not as wonderful as I had expected
Hi, I went back home and got to meet my family and few very close friends. This might sound unbelievable but none of them have noticed that my height is increased. In fact, unless I stand very close to them, I don't notice it either. I left markings in my room before I began this journey. I now stood at the same place and cross checked. The difference is so small, it's barely visible. I went out shopping today with one of my friend who is 5'2" (an inch shorter than my old height) and he has not mentioned even once that I look a bit taller now. I felt little sad that my 1 year effort is worth nothing. I wanted someone to notice so that I can satisfy my ego. For those of you who asked me in the past if this journey is worth it, I would say it isn't for 5 cm gain. It's barely noticeable and the price you pay and the risk you take would be absurdly high to justify the gain.
What stands out more is the fact that I'm walking slowly and carefully, and the braces that I wear inside my trousers. I told them that I got into an accident and they believed it. They don't even doubt that I did something like LL because my height gain is not noticeable. Honestly, I don't even know how to react at this point. Should I be happy that they don't suspect that I did LL, or should I be pissed that my height gain is not evident ?
well you did this for your self right? be glad that people don't know about your leg lengthening and just because they don't say anything about it doesn't mean that they don't notice anything at all. I bet they do notice something.
I think doing something like 7-8 cm would be worth it.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on April 16, 2017, 07:28:36 PMHow tall is 165cm in india?
And that sound strange as 5cm is an evident difference... Maybe you didn't gain 5cm?
India has quite diverse demographics in terms of height. But where I stay, 165 is pretty average. Most men here are around 162 - 170 cm.\
I'm starting to suspect if I haven't gained 5 cm. I checked my height in Delhi before leaving and it was good. I would have to check here again to see if anything has changed.
Quote from: google42 on April 16, 2017, 07:33:10 PMwell you did this for your self right? be glad that people don't know about your leg lengthening and just because they don't say anything about it doesn't mean that they don't notice anything at all. I bet they do notice something.
I think doing something like 7-8 cm would be worth it.
I don't know man. I've gone through quite a bit of complications, including ballerina in my left leg. So 7-8 would have been impossible for me. Right now, I'm on high and my feeling haven't settled. Perhaps I need to take more time and let these thoughts settle.
I am saying it is evident because when I wore for the first time an inch insole in my boots, everyone noticed
Don't be sad, Fujitora 
I'm very positive that nobody has noticed your new height, or isn't sure about it, because you were gone for almost an entire year!
I was lengthening at home and my peers met me again after 2-3 month.
As you probably know, I could only lengthen one inch, and the shorter people instantly noticed the difference in my height, whether they knew about my LL or not.
Some time before my surgery, I met a friend again whom I hadn't seen for like two or so month and he than said something like "I thought you were taller", ouch!
That hurt, but it also showed to me that many people can't remember ones real height because they have the blessing to not have to think about height in their daily life.
So again, don't be sad. It was worth it! Don't let your experiences fool you.
Depending on where you live, you're probably taller than the short girls now (1st win) and one step closer to getting more respect from other males (2nd win 50%).
Maybe you have experimented subsidence. I know for sure according ti Many diaries that you can lose like .5-1 cm after the removal of the fixators, that is the reason why is recommended overlengthening to your goal. Dr Franz give us an explanation about that thing.
Fujitora 2 inches is a good gain but for me it is the limit where you worth to do LL or not.
I keep telling people here that lengthenings like 3cm is a joke and don't worth at all the money, the risks and the pain of LL but there are still people here who think that even so small amounts will make a difference.
They won't.
That said, I think that 2 inches make a visible difference, not much but still it worths to do LL for it. But not less than that.
Maybe you are still shorter from the men of your family and your friends and thats why they haven't seen the difference.
If you were about the same height before LL, I'm sure they would have understood this difference.
But the think that you should only care about is if you are happy with your new height. If yes then nothing else matters. If no, maybe you should think about a femur LL too and go for 6-7cms more.
Everything its up to you.
Keep strong !
Quote from: Body Builder on April 16, 2017, 08:16:46 PMthere are still people here who think that even so small amounts will make a difference.
Regarding that, I reckon that everyone is talking past each other.
A visible difference in ones height and a difference in ones life seem to be confused a lot.
For instance, 2-3cm is not really worth the money, time, pain ect. and it is not a life-changer but the difference in height is proven to be visible.
4-5cm is more worth the money, time, ect. and it may be a life-changer, depending on how tall you were before. The difference in height will be more visible of course.
>5cm is even more worth the money, time ect., but it is not that save anymore, problems with proportions and bio-mechanics can be expected.
Then a second surgery is advisable which can make 2-3cm in one segment worth the money time and pain again.
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