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Posted on Jun 25, 2016, 7:20 pm
#11

It can definitely help, but it won't cure it. I highly recommend seeing a psychiatrist first.

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 2:16 pm
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Quote from: al-right-folks on June 25, 2016, 02:24:12 PMBut to respond to your point, I think it's unfair to but a bar like that. Relative height in the country should be what counts.


You are completely right. And then, with globalization, even as a man from a country where men are shorter, you have more and more to compete with the sizes of men from countries where people have taller statures..

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 3:06 pm
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It helps.  I'm much more social now.

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 3:22 pm
#14

Oh man your story is similar to mine, i too have identical mentality with my father, but physically he is taller than me by 7 cm :/, so you could imagine how it is for me.

I was always taller then my friends and classmates, people percieved me as a silent pal, strong physically and mentally. I, not always, but ussually, was in a spotlight or near it, doing not so much effort, so i accepted this combination, but after teenage years i became shorter then most of my friends and relatives, and now for me to be in spotlight i have to become another person which i do not want to be, i mean to compensate my height people expect me to be always funny, outgoing, always on good mood, always on very active mode and etc. I am not saying that it is bad to be person like this, but i don't like the fact that they somehow not by their fault, but by their inner instincts or (similar word) they compel me to be that person.

I won't hide that i am 5'8 or 5'9, i am not sure, i fear to check real height, but it is how it is, i feel that way around 4 years, and couldn't manage to overcome the fact and accept my height.

My body is average, my face is 7/10(not only in my country), few months ago started to working out, hate it because of seeing guys who have height which i desire. but somehow manage not to miss gym very often, it may sound funny but i tell myself that i will be needing muscular upper body during post operation.

About girls, don't know how to say short, i think it is insecurity that i manage to like or fell in love in girls who are my height or taller then me, i think after surgery this insecurity will not disappear, but i accepted this. I read somewhere that it might be fetish, i don't now. I punish myself everytime a girl gives signs of interest in me, my mind thinks that i am not worth her.

And last i don't know if i am only one, but very often i have this occurrence, when i walk and pass the taller guy, i lose control and raise on feet, i feel so embrassed everytime, eh

This is not my first language so sorry for grammar erros

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 3:36 pm
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The number one thing I've gathered about this surgery that plenty of patients who've done it have all said is: If you come in happy you go out happpy. If you come out sad, you'll probably stay that way.

For OP and amenhotep, I'd advice seeing a shrink first. Some of the things you've guys said aren't going to be fixed by LL (extreme lack of self-esteem). If you're a loser at X-height (this can mainly apply to anyone 5'7 or over), you'll still be a loser with a new height.

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 3:52 pm
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Quote from: amenhotep on June 26, 2016, 03:22:05 PMi mean to compensate my height people expect me to be always funny, outgoing, always on good mood, always on very active mode and etc. I am not saying that it is bad to be person like this, but i don't like the fact that they somehow not by their fault, but by their inner instincts or (similar word) they compel me to be that person.


Don't live to someone expectations just be yourself.

Quote from: amenhotep on June 26, 2016, 03:22:05 PM I punish myself everytime a girl gives signs of interest in me, my mind thinks that i am not worth her.


Ye implying that she has a bad taste is a huge turn on, nothing more attractive than self pity woho.

Quote from: amenhotep on June 26, 2016, 03:22:05 PMAnd last i don't know if i am only one, but very often i have this occurrence, when i walk and pass the taller guy, i lose control and raise on feet, i feel so embrassed everytime, eh


Well i can't recommend you anything except seeking for a mental help.

Quote from: Alu on June 26, 2016, 03:36:51 PMIf you're a loser at X-height (this can mainly apply to anyone 5'7 or over), you'll still be a loser with a new height.


+1

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 4:03 pm
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Quote from: Alu on June 26, 2016, 03:36:51 PMThe number one thing I've gathered about this surgery that plenty of patients who've done it have all said is: If you come in happy you go out happpy. If you come out sad, you'll probably stay that way.

For OP and amenhotep, I'd advice seeing a shrink first. Some of the things you've guys said aren't going to be fixed by LL (extreme lack of self-esteem). If you're a loser at X-height (this can mainly apply to anyone 5'7 or over), you'll still be a loser with a new height.


depends your definition of happiness though. Not a single happy person would think of doing this surgery. If the expectation is to have a completely new life than you are in for a huge dissapointment. If you are unhappy because you see that your height is holding you back (and IT IS only the height) than you are in for a good result psychologically speaking.
 

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 4:10 pm
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Quote from: Alu on June 26, 2016, 03:36:51 PMThe number one thing I've gathered about this surgery that plenty of patients who've done it have all said is: If you come in happy you go out happpy. If you come out sad, you'll probably stay that way.

For OP and amenhotep, I'd advice seeing a shrink first. Some of the things you've guys said aren't going to be fixed by LL (extreme lack of self-esteem). If you're a loser at X-height (this can mainly apply to anyone 5'7 or over), you'll still be a loser with a new height.


I had sent the OP a PM offering to help in any way I can with his depression. Help him find a good mental health professional or whatever I can do, but he never responded.

I've also noticed that the patients that go into the surgery feeling good about themselves, maybe feeling bad about height but otherwise have their sh*t together, seem to have better recoveries too. I'm sure the two are related.

There are so many things a guy can do to improve himself. Why wait to do that until post LL?

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 26, 2016, 03:52:04 PMYe implying that she has a bad taste is a huge turn on, nothing more attractive than self pity woho.


Exactly.

A sign of interest is a sign of interest, period. If she shows that she is interested, she probably feels like your height is fine (or it never even crossed her mind at all)

I assume all women are attracted to me until proven otherwise.

And amenhotep, you say you have to be funny and gregarious to get attention? I dunno man, I'm a bit shorter than you and I act like a cky, arrogant pr*ck most of the time. Women like it. Most women I have been with, including my wife, said that was one of the biggest things that attracted them to me was my slightly bad attitude.

Women are play things to me, and most women I have been with have liked being treated that way. Women don't like needy and insecure.

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Posted on Jun 26, 2016, 4:54 pm
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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 26, 2016, 04:03:48 PMdepends your definition of happiness though. Not a single happy person would think of doing this surgery. If the expectation is to have a completely new life than you are in for a huge dissapointment. If you are unhappy because you see that your height is holding you back (and IT IS only the height) than you are in for a good result psychologically speaking.


Basically..

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Posted on Jun 27, 2016, 3:20 am
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It's easy to blame height. The problem is more likely to be personality  - especially sociability, leadership ability and competence. In the real world (i.e workplace and basically every activity other than chasing pussy) these are far bigger markers of status than height and women.

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