Quote from: AnotherLLer on April 19, 2024, 11:25:14 PMThe problem is my wingspan is 166 cm so any height gain through LL will lower my ape index cm-by-cm, but I don't think about it as being 178 is my ultimate goal with longish legs. What I have right now is wide shoulders and big torso so I won't look bad with longish legs although arms might appear shortish after 12-13 cm of lengthening which, again, doesn't matter as long as I stand 178 barefoot throughout the day. I can wear lifts and stand at 182 and never think about appearing short in public again.
I understand that doing fully external tibia right now is my best option and gonna stick with it. I can get it done cheaply and will push to 7-7.5 cm to gain almost 3 inches which is life saving from my current height.
After tibia I will most probably fly to the USA and work there in order to get the money for PRECICE MAX till I get 40 and reach 180-ish height which will be another life changing event after what tibia lengthening brings to my life.
I'm just conscious about ballerina feet after 5 cm on tibia. I know that it's almost inevitable to get ballerina at 7-7.5 cm tibia but I'll stretch my ankles like crazy in order to avoid ATL surgery. I'm going to wear 2 inch elevators anyway so mild ballerina won't be an issue.
When I measured mine against the wall, wingspan was 170, although I guess you could give or take 2cm from that as it wouldn't have been done perfectly accurately. Even so that's way less than my height. Only people on here notice or care. It's certainly a lot better than being short.
The more accurate way IMO is measuring demispan with a tailor's tape and then multiply the value by 2. My demispan is 83 cm so my armspan is roughly 166-167 cm which is low. I have broad clavicles and shoulders naturally so my arms and hands are not that long it seems. They are like Henry Cavill's, but proportionate to my body at this height. Cavill has very short forearms and childish hands but his broad upper body and overall stature compensates those flaws of course. That's why I'm going to buff moderately after my first LL and when femurs' turn comes, retain those muscles by working out during the lengthening and consolidation periods.
You are right in that the lack of height is the ultimate failo a man can have and it's much better being kinda disproportionate and have long legs like Henry Cavill rather than being short and have short legs.
In the past I always thought about having this surgery but forgot about it for quite some years till now. The reason I'm thinking about it again is that as man enters his 30s, being visually mature is very important for him and without a certain level of physical height things start to become even harder beginning in 30s. If only I needed just 5-7 cm like SWEDEN or some other famous users to get away with one surgery but I understand that I will most likely need to get the femurs done till 40 years of age in order to get the decent height and equalize proportions between upper and lower limbs.
Even though I'm too skeptical of Turkish doctors, when I watch LiveLiveTaller's videos where men at around my height get 2 segments done in total for 12-15 cm and how much different they look afterwards I imagine how I too will look like a completely different man after those surgeries and it never goes away from my mind.
Another thing is height gain is addictive up until 6 feet so after I do tibia to gain 3 inches and recover, my height dysphoria will intensify even more. Although I'll feel much better at my new height after tibia, I'll become even more determined to lengthen femurs ASAP in order to completely change myself into a version I envision now. That's why I think that Body Builder is still here after all this time because that 7.5 cm of tibia was not enough for him as his starting height was 0.5 cm more than mine, i.e. short.
I remember SWEDEN was contemplating for a long time after he done his tibia that he needed 5 cm femur but he left the forum in the end which means he accepted his 178 height which is decent height after all. But, if he was 5'8 after his surgery, I'm 100% sure that he would most probably still be there like Body Builder until he finally did his femurs too.
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