Quote from: Audous on March 24, 2022, 02:33:49 AMTaxes higher in America than Europe for Highly-Skilled individuals? I thought it was the opposite, some states have much lower taxes like Florida and Washington since they don't pay the state government tax not to mention the Seattle area is a hotspot for the CS field. Do you know the range for vacation time received for those that work CS roles in the US?
Well the tax rate is generally lower in the US, but if you work a high-paying job you're probably in NY or CA so the tax rate is not necessarily lower (esp. since the only thing you get from your taxes is the privilege of living in a city of hobos) and because you earn so much more than you would in Europe your total taxes paid would be way higher. Seattle is the exception I guess.
As for vacation, I work in finance so I don't know what CS is like, but my friend at Google started with 4 weeks PTO and it goes up to 6. Afaik you get 4+ weeks with most finance roles once you're settled in. Entry levels get the shaft but that's how the system works. I'd rather be a SDE in the US than Europe any day though, and the brain drain from other countries to SV shows that most people agree with me.
Quote from: Sorcerer on March 24, 2022, 02:40:27 AMSpeaking of which, though European average heights are taller than the US, but US's heightism, as I heard, is obviously more severe than that in Europe for some reasons that I don't know.
I think that's bc US's society is filled with competitions(not involutions. They are essentially 2 different things)so I think that's the real reason.
I am very new to the American economy but I am planning to work as a CS programmer in the US so I am curious about tax topic.
For the range of vacation time, I think in the US it's also common for programmers to work over time?
I know a Chinese guy with a CS PhD and a few years of experience who reached L6 at Google, then a headhunter recruited him for Tencent and they doubled his pay. He makes nearly ¥700w/year in Shenzhen now. His working hours are >996 at both companies. Idk about vacation time, but I'd guess Google gives more.
Quote from: BelowTheMean on March 24, 2022, 02:14:40 PMI know a Chinese guy with a CS PhD and a few years of experience who reached L6 at Google, then a headhunter recruited him for Tencent and they doubled his pay. He makes nearly ¥700w/year in Shenzhen now. His working hours are >996 at both companies. Idk about vacation time, but I'd guess Google gives more.
I still don't get it. Why since he was recruited in Google and then turned to Tencent?
Quote from: Sorcerer on March 25, 2022, 04:34:01 AMI still don't get it. Why since he was recruited in Google and then turned to Tencent?
More pay and higher role probably
Quote from: Audous on March 25, 2022, 04:42:13 AMMore pay and higher role probably
I never noticed Tecent could offer higher payments for CS workers even than Google. But speaking of payments, I formed a conclusion, that the more competitions there are in random country, the more heightism this country is, at least all of the examples irl can corroborate my conclusion:China, S.Korea, Japan, US, and as opposed to these countries, European countries are very lack of competitions, so the heightism in those countries is way more better.
I guess the main reason is the population, or let's put it more directly and precisely, the sources that can be achieved per capita.
If per-capita sources are very scarce, then you gotta compete with others in random respects, of course including height, to obtain the sources for yourself, and if one country's heterosexual ratio is imbalanced, height and appearance is gonna become more influencing on your life cuz you gotta compete with your cohort whose gender is the same as yours to achieve sexual sources. So the dynamic behind heightism is actuall very easy to see through.
Quote from: Sorcerer on March 25, 2022, 10:08:02 AMI never noticed Tecent could offer higher payments for CS workers even than Google. But speaking of payments, I formed a conclusion, that the more competitions there are in random country, the more heightism this country is, at least all of the examples irl can corroborate my conclusion:China, S.Korea, Japan, US, and as opposed to these countries, European countries are very lack of competitions, so the heightism in those countries is way more better.
I guess the main reason is the population, or let's put it more directly and precisely, the sources that can be achieved per capita.
If per-capita sources are very scarce, then you gotta compete with others in random respects, of course including height, to obtain the sources for yourself, and if one country's heterosxxual ratio is imbalanced, height and appearance is gonna become more influencing on your life cuz you gotta compete with your cohort whose gender is the same as yours to achieve sxxual sources. So the dynamic behind heightism is actuall very easy to see through.
Wrong. Europeans are taller because the women selected for it. See the Dutch. Heightism is everywhere. You have a fantasy that things will be different if you leave China but it won't.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/378899/dutch-men-are-the-tallest-in-the-world-because-thats-what-dutch-women-prefer/amp/
Quote from: Highest on March 25, 2022, 10:33:44 AMWrong. Europeans are taller because the women selected for it. See the Dutch. Heightism is everywhere. You have a fantasy that things will be different if you leave China but it won't.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/378899/dutch-men-are-the-tallest-in-the-world-because-thats-what-dutch-women-prefer/amp/
The reason why US average height is lower than Western Europe and Scandinavia is because short women take tall guys which poisons the gene pool and causes a risk for short children. Furthermore more non-white population. Whereas when 5'5 women and 5'5 man have babies there's a very strong chance the baby will be 5'9+, I know it's anecdotal evidence but I've seen this everywhere, similar heighted couples almost always produced decent heighted children.
Also yeah, heightism is everywhere and leaving China won't let you escape that.
Quote from: Audous on March 25, 2022, 10:50:40 AMThe reason why US average height is lower than Western Europe and Scandinavia is because short women take tall guys which poisons the gene pool and causes a risk for short children. Furthermore more non-white population. Whereas when 5'5 women and 5'5 man have babies there's a very strong chance the baby will be 5'9+, I know it's anecdotal evidence but I've seen this everywhere, similar heighted couples almost always produced decent heighted children.
Also yeah, heightism is everywhere and leaving China won't let you escape that.
Alot of women have zero understanding of genetics and genuinely believe that tall husband will equal a tall son and do not factor in them being 5'2 as a reason that the son could be short.
Quote from: Highest on March 25, 2022, 10:33:44 AMWrong. Europeans are taller because the women selected for it. See the Dutch. Heightism is everywhere. You have a fantasy that things will be different if you leave China but it won't.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/378899/dutch-men-are-the-tallest-in-the-world-because-thats-what-dutch-women-prefer/amp/
So short women are gonna be phased out in the future as well just later than men?
Quote from: Highest on March 25, 2022, 10:59:39 AMAlot of women have zero understanding of genetics and genuinely believe that tall husband will equal a tall son and do not factor in them being 5'2 as a reason that the son could be short.
Yeah. They are always delusional of 'improving' their genes by fking with a tall guy though in guy's side those short women are polluting his genes. But I don't know why a lot of tall guys are always tacitly consenting them to do so.
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