Hi y'all, I'd like to know how much the dating life for men can be improved after the surgery? For anyone who has improved their dating life, please share your stories by trying to quantify your improvements on numbers of the second date/kisses as well as your height increase. Thanks!
Do you have the link or the name of the videos? I think we all know that surgery improves dating life. But the key question is that does it improve a little bit like a $100 jacket does OR does it improve dramatically like a $100,000 transformation?
This is not very wise though because plenty of data points on this forum suggest that there are small to huge improvements for men's dating life after the surgery. The following posts are just some I gathered so far. Some has quantified the improvements which are very helpful info for those who decide the to do surgery.
1. "When i first started this LL journey, my theory was that when I get taller i’ll get hotter women, have to try less etc when it comes to girls Obvs not the only reason I did it but in that regard it was a theory I can now say with certainty that yes my theory was correct Last year when i was 5’7-5’8 I would get girls but honestly the girls i were seeing were okay A couple were hot but they would test me soo much This year the girls I am seeing are all hot as fk It is a shame but the grass is indeed a lot greener"
2. "Girls as well have been taking notice too I used to know this girl who was like 5’10 and there are alot of situations where I am taller than her now she acting different too"
3. "One positive thing. I went on a number of tinder dates on the weekend and one girl said to me after I stood up "you're kinda tall, how tall are you?" I've never had that in my life so that's amazing!!!"
4. "I’m not sure my dating life for girls who were shorter than me has improved drastically. In a club, for girls who were previously shorter than me, maybe ~70% were receptive talking to me. That’s probably like 80-85% now. I think the factors here are less about height but much more focused on looks / conversation skills / confidence. For girls who were my height or taller it’s changed drastically. This part of the population was ~15% of the pool pre-surgery (maybe like 30% including heels ie going clubbing). 0% who would have talked to me before now is about 80-85%."
Quote from: Elhemioe on October 12, 2021, 03:45:09 PMEven at 5'2 I genuinely don't think it's that big of a problem. Most of the time, the one who's uncomfortable with it isn't even the girl it's usually the guy. Like most guys just won't have a girlfriend that's taller than them for whatever reason, you just have to talk to tall girls to realize that they're probably struggling as much as you if not more.
Not to mention that there's a ton of women at and under 5'2.
Moreover, I mean even if you get less sxx friends of whatever, what's the big deal ? At least you'll be 100% sure that the ones who do get to know you are the real deal. I really don't see how that isn't a win win.
The following is just a quote from someone who did the surgery. You can google the quote and find the author and his posts:
"Well for once thing, I've literally been asked out by girls now. That almost never happened to me. I've literally never been in a situation where I had to politely reject someone. I get 'ghosted' a lot less. The women I meet actually make an effort to hang out/meet again. I used to think it was normal to always 'try hard' and that the onus was on the dude to make the effort. In reality, I just wasn't seen as that attractive so I was never priority number 1 these women. Now its a bit different. Its also fairly easy for me to hook up at clubs now. "
Quote from: I want 8,07 cm on October 12, 2021, 09:31:51 PMThere are men who are authentic flirting machines and they only arr170-171cm Tall. but the reality is that when you go to a disco the woman will notice the highest one before. then he can be an idiot or he can have a small penis. But what being taller allows you to meet those girls who unconsciously seek height is a reality.
Sorry . My english is bad
Your English might be bad. But your point is so good. Height opens doors. Height matters especially in the beginning. And you know what they say about the beginning: the beginning is the most difficult part of all things.
Quote from: ilovescience on October 13, 2021, 01:34:39 AMI am sorry but I am kind of confused. You mean if a man is 6 ft tall, he easily attracts a woman with 5'6 tall?
A man taller than 7 ft attracts 5'9 woman?
No, he meant if you’re 6 on a 10 attraction scores, then you’d improve your attractiveness scores by 1 or 1.5 points if you’re taller.
Quote from: Movie on October 13, 2021, 01:30:39 AMYou get more choosing signals on appearance alone, you get bumped up about a point or 1.5 out of 10 in the sxxual Market Value scale. so if you were a 6 at 5'6 you might become a 7-7.5 at 5'9
Hi Movie, thank you so much for commenting on my topic. I’m also below 170cm aiming for 175cm. I’m curious is there any quantitative improvements you saw for your dating experiences after surgery? Do you feel like you get 5% more or 50% more second dates or kisses than before the surgery? Also, does the numbness or any surgery negative consequence lower your cognitive function or performance on getting a second date or dating in general?
Quote from: tallertree on October 14, 2021, 12:10:54 PMI think I'm a good candidate to answer this question since I went from a non-normal height(around 160cm) to a normal height(around 170cm) for men.
My new height has NOT produced more attention from girls. What I mean by this is that I have not noticed that girls shows interest more than before. This is obviously due to my looks, I'm simply a ugly guy. What has changed though is that I don't think as much about my height anymore. Before LL I used to think a lot about my height and I think girls could sense this insecurity. Obviously in my case a few more doors have been opened since I now have a normal height, so that girl who thought my height was a deal breaker will maybe not see it as a deal breaker anymore. But if you already are of natural height, you will most likely not be affected by this.
My sincere suggestion to all men out there who have a height that could be considered normal is that you will gain MUCH more by improving yourself in other ways. Start going to the gym, dress nice, drive a nice car and simply take care of yourself. If you don't get attention from girls with your current height, you will for sure not gain more attention from girls after LL. You also probably have thousands of dollars laying around to make this change possible, just make sure to invest it wisely.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I noticed that some of your posts show something negative about the surgery even after the nail removal. How’re you doing now? Do you still feel any negative impact because of the surgery?
Also, does the negative impact affect your brain performance or social life in dating? The only reason I asked this question is that I'd feel a little difficult to work on cognitive tasks if my legs are feeling bad. So does the surgery cause any negative effect on your brain functions, conversation skills, and social life a few months after you removed the nails?
Quote from: tripleogkush on October 15, 2021, 11:53:07 AMwhats the point of this discussion anyways? this is a limb lenghtening forum. people come here to get it done.
this not a psychology forum. 
Many men, who decided to do the surgery, are looking for an improvement of their dating life. Thus, please talk about the data or stories you know that show the QUANTITATIVE improvements of dating life.
Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on October 16, 2021, 01:59:47 PMMy dating life was definitely improved after my LL back in 2012 (10cm on the right femur, 9cm on the left)
I did some calculations back in 2016. I counted the number of hookups I had in the 4 years after finishing my consolidation phase (meaning, walking without crutches) and in the 4 years prior to my surgery (in January 2012).The improvement was outstanding: 700%. I'm not exaggerating.
But some context:
1 - I was in the extreme left of the normal distribution for male height (165cm) and went to average in my country, almost average in the US (174,5cm, although I'm usually 176 when I wake up). Thus, I probably was in the sweet spot to get the most amount of improvement.
2 - I grew up in a country where males tend to have natural "game". So I was pulling way above my league at 165cm already. I never had this problem of some people here of being afraid to approach girls, etc... It also helps that the average girl in my country (a 5, let's say) would be a 7,5 in the US.
3 - The extra height didn't improve the number of serious relationships - height is more of a pre-requisite for this, not the main thing. But the extra height improved the range of possible partners, as most women simply won't be in a relationship with a shorter guy. And the longest relationship I had post LL was with a 174cm girl - I doubt that would have ever happened if I was still 165cm tall.
4 - The BRUTAL rejections I'd get as as short guy (like a girl in a club saying I was half-human because of my height) simply stopped. Of course, I still get rejected but it's nothing like it was before, the rejections are always civil and polite now.
"700%" improvement from 165cm to 174cm is amazing! Is there anything else you did besides the 9cm height increase? I'd like to know some other actions you did that help your dating life improvements, and I can share my "secrets"/stories below:
The only dating life improvement I could compare to the "700%" improvement you talked about is moving to Ukraine from the U.S. for 3 months because the ladies in Ukraine are much more open for getting together than the western ladies are. Another big dating improvement of mine is caused by reading Corey Wayne's book, but it's more like 300% instead of 700%. I even bought a used Lamborghini, which I thought that it'd increase my dating life by 10 times but only more like 2 times at most....certainly not as effective as going to Ukraine.
How old were you in 2016?
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