Hello again guys,
For those that accompanied my previous disturbing thread, I am back in the forum again. Evidently, I suffer from severe depression and I have height dysphoria too and I have been discussing it with my therapist. I know LL is not a joke and has to be taken seriously, after all, it can be life-changing either for the better or the worse. Although getting rid of my mental illness tops all my priorities and that getting taller would not be the solution to all my problems It sure as hell would be such a relief for myself. I have been carrying this burden of feeling short for so long and it is so debilitating mentally, it literally soaks all my energy and motivation to invest in my life pursuits. Honestly, I do not think I will ever be truly happy at this stature, I am just not happy with it. I don't feel manly at all, my legs are short as well as my arms, hands and feet. Statistically, my height falls on the average range but I see a lot more often white guys more or less my age taller than the other way around.
This is why even considering all the risks I would like to get this done, I don't care if I may put my ability to walk or whatever in jeopardy, the only thing I know is that if I could reach a better height I would feel a lot better about myself and raise my confidence to deal with life. At least 8cm on my femurs to reach 182/183, I would like to lengthen. I have tiny proportions for a grown man, I guess I was spoiled by some bad gene or something. My wingspan is 175cm on the dot but my arm length is quite short, only 70-72cm from my armpit to the extremity of my middle finger, thanks to my broad shoulders from several years lifting weights I can at least match my own height or perhaps a bit more, I am like 172,5 in the evening, 174 in the morning or 174,5. my legs are quite short, I am only 99cm from the ground to my bellybutton so fortunately I was blessed with a relatively long torso. My hands are small too, I have small fingers and nails and it is embarrassing as fk, my hand length is 7 inches only lol. My feet although small not abruptly so, a modest size 42 European.
I am worried my proportions cannot handle my desired height increment and I will look like a t-rex or something I would really appreciate some advice. I had a talk with my mom about it once and she thought this is crazy and unheard of, which is.. it isn't mainstream yet and probably never will. Nevertheless, I confessed to her that it's been a long time I've been suffering from this and then she told me the usual lose weight, proper grooming blablabla bull to give the illusion I am taller than I really am. I asked her what she thought about me doing it and she replied nothing more nothing less than that i'm immature to even consider something like this. I gave the silly me laugh but my heart ached inside. Well, at the end of the day I am not expecting my parents to support me with this that's why I would never include them on my plans let alone asking for money to do this. I just want to know how all of you deal with your parents and siblings because it can be a struggle.
I am 22 and only recently I have started working and have barely saved any money yet. I want to do STRYDE on my femurs with Paley (I mean who the hell doesn't) but it's too expensive it would take me to many years to save that kind of money. Is there any cheaper viable alternative?
Of course I am not expecting to do internal femurs with 20k but 100k seems too much for one segment alone, something in between those two figures would be more doable.
Quote from: taller_in_Kiev on September 18, 2018, 09:34:02 AMYou have a few options in Europe in between those 2 figures. Internal obviously. You are around my height pre-LL and I can totally relate to what you've written.
What options would that be? And for how much roughly?
I thought about operating on my tibias first... longer tibias look more attractive to the eye and with externals it is much cheaper. I want to be taller now or within the next few years.. not in a decade when my early adulthood would be soon to cease.
Quote from: Sanity on September 18, 2018, 03:53:38 PMyou can get external tibias done which will be much cheaper. about 10-20k in india with a good surgeon. p.s longer tibias look sxxier.
You are right... however going so far away and be bed ridden for months at some dirty hospital in India doesn’t sound like a good idea...
Quote from: 1683131665 on September 19, 2018, 02:31:58 PMMeasure your own wingspan.Considering that this operation was invented by a Russian doctor. Russia has good external experience. And they are cheaper. Find a reliable Russian doctor.Do not try more than 6cm in the tibia.Don't go to Vietnam and India.
I already mentioned on my original post that my wingspan is 175cm.
It’s concerning because if I lengthen I’ll go above it and damage my proportions a bit.
But honestly my shoulders are really broad they’re 62cm in length, that is a lot.
At my current height I look like a small tank but if I get taller my broad shoulders will look really manly and aesthetic.
I have used lifts before that although uncomfortable brought me to 183cm and I liked very much the way I looked.
It’s just mind blowing how a few centimetres can make you look completely different.
My arms are short as well as my hands and I am worried but I’ll take my chances anyhow because I wanna be taller, period.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on September 19, 2018, 07:02:23 PMThere is no way your shoulders are 62cm from one end to another.
Sorry I meant 52 not 62, my bad. Nevertheless, quite broad
ok, I'll try to do that.
In the meantime, I'll leave here my measurements.
Wingspan - 175cm
Inseam - 77cm
Sitting height - 98cm
Shoulder width - 27cm from one end to my inner chest x 2 = 54cm
Arm length - 68cm
Forearm length - 27cm (elbow to wrist)
Tibia length - 50cm
Femur length - 27cm
my tibias and femurs are tiny.. when I sit on a table with other people I am actually the same height as other much taller guys in the 6'-6'5 range hence why I think I can be a great candidate for this surgery. What concerns me is my arms, they're kinda short making my wingspan short despite my shoulder width so idk if I could handle 3-5 inch lengthening.
Femurs with Paley with the STRYDE nail is definitely the best out there nowadays but to save that kind of money is gonna take several years.
I'm trying to get in the investment banking scene here in London and right now I might even invest another 20-40k in a masters degree to lift up my chances... Let's say I achieved so, I reckon in a couple of years or 3 years I could save 100k pounds and with STRYDE the scarring is minimal and I can resume my life a lot sooner.
On the other hand, doing tibias with externals in Russia for 20k seems quite tempting but being bedridden for several months, can you imagine how hard it can be to put your whole life on hold for that long and the toll it can take mentally? Beyond that, thrashing my legs with lots of scars sounds like a big downside but maybe it is my best chance right now because I don't think I can afford internals on both segments and externals is seemingly the best method to lengthen the tibias
My ultimate goal is to lengthen both segments, 8cm on my femurs and 5-6cm on my tibias reaching 188/189. I could be 190 wearing shoes...
In the hypothesis I lengthened 14cm my inseam would raise to 91cm.. still less than my sitting height so I wouldn't look lanky would I?
Just a thought... I'm open to criticism
Quote from: 6'2_dream on September 21, 2018, 02:12:40 PMtallerdream
Are you sure your measurement is correct?
Length of the tibia - 50cm
Length of the femur - 27cm
I have 42cm of tibia its is gigantic and the average length of femur is 40 to 50cm your te 27 cm ?? something is wrong
I measured my tibia from the ground to the top of my knee and my femur from there to the end of my inner quad touching my genitals. I’ll try to measure again, but I’m pretty sure my Inseam measurement is accurate
guys I get it, 5'9 is not that bad but it's a height I don't really sustain for long so I'd say I'm more like 5'8 during the day, 5'9 wearing shoes..
I am not happy with my height, I feel like a midget here in London..I compare my height with thousands of ppl everyday and I am rarely as tall as a white man, they're all taller like 90%.. I am as tall as many asians though. I had to endure 3yrs at university living in halls with 6'0+ brahs and I was among the shortest. I noticed these guys had no style whatsoever, bad looking faces but were pussy magnetizers solely because of their height and a bit of social skill/charisma. Throughout my Youth and now my early adulthood, I feel I have several qualities girls like and feel attracted to such as my facial structure, my hair, my eyes, my intelligence, my sense of humour, my honesty, my future prospects... but I just feel this layer of unease and girls give me the eye something's wrong and I'm pretty sure it's my height, because it's the only thing I don't have as a plus. The sxxual prejudice is real.. and so is in other aspects of life.So the point is, do I have to live an entire life of discontent revolving my stature? I don't think so... will my proportions be negatively affected? Most definitely. Put I can cope with that.. with this hindrance not letting me live my life to the fullest and not letting me feel good about myself, I can't. I just can't.. I am not even trying to justify undergoing this surgery because at the end of the day we'll do whatever the fk our minds tell us to. Gathering the money to do this and being bedridden for months won't be a walk in the park... but I can handle it.. I just wish I could taller today, not tomorrow
Quote from: ThatGuy on September 23, 2018, 12:07:17 PMIt'd be tall if you were in Japan, but it is above average, I used this site.
https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/
The break down is..
UK - 5'9 = 50% Average
5'11 = 75.3% Above Average
6'0 = 84.8% Kinda Tall
US -5'9.3 = 50% Average
5'11 = 71.9% above average
6'0 = 82.1% kinda tall
ThatGuy, average height in the UK is not 5’9, it’s 5’10.. the British are a bit taller than Americans.
Second, it’s just statistics, 5’10 is the average height in the UK accounting for all generations.
I am 100% convinced it is the older generations bringing the average down. If you take a sample of only younger people, let’s say born in the 80s and 90s the average is more like 6’0.
I observe a lot people here in London and white males are very tall, 6’0 and beyond. Occasionally you might see a short guy but not often. The same should apply to the US, even though I haven’t been there yet I’ve seen on the internet rumours that young Americans are pretty tall too.
lol at the above, yes, statistics are just statistics. They are accurate (or should be accurate) but, as I mentioned already, they include a very broad sample that represents the entire population, including children and older generations.
For instance, the internet claims the average height for a grown male, in the UK, to be 5'10. This is probably true, however, based on what I have been noticing for quite some time is that younger males are taller than that. My estimation, based on what I've seen and confront every single day is that average height for young white males is more like 6'0. If the statistics represented young males, solely, then most guys I see every day would be very close to my eye level which is not the case.
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