Deaths caused by LL

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On pulmonary embolism and DVT.

Regarding fat emboli, they will most likely get released into your system after an osteotomy. That doesn't automatically mean you'll develop Fat Embolism Syndrome (FES).

However, I believe (I'm not a doctor disclaimer, as always) all medicine can do against FES is monitoring symptoms and enabling forms of ventilation. If you get acute/fuminant FES (the worst form), I think the only option is to get mechanical ventilation, then have the doctors do what's described here and pray for you.

Another useful thread:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=8960.0

FES diagnosis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_embolism#Diagnosis

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Quote from: myloginacc on June 22, 2018, 09:55:11 AMOn pulmonary embolism and DVT.

Regarding fat emboli, they will most likely get released into your system after an osteotomy. That doesn't automatically mean you'll develop Fat Embolism Syndrome (FES).

However, I believe (I'm not a doctor disclaimer, as always) all medicine can do against FES is monitoring symptoms and enabling forms of ventilation. If you get acute/fuminant FES (the worst form), I think the only option is to get mechanical ventilation, then have the doctors do what's described here and pray for you.

Another useful thread:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=8960.0

FES diagnosis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_embolism#Diagnosis

It's written above in one of the news link that fat emboli reached brain and lungs causing death...it means surgery carries very high risk of death, if it is certain that fat emboli gets released in large amount in case of large bones. It is just a matter of chance that they don't reach to the brain, if they reach to the brain/lungs then death is certain? This is true even post surgery days and could even happen during entire length of lengthening if not during consolidation?

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Quote from: totallyred on June 22, 2018, 10:50:49 AMIt's written above in one of the news link that fat emboli reached brain and lungs causing death...it means surgery carries very high risk of death, if it is certain that fat emboli gets released in large amount in case of large bones. It is just a matter of chance that they don't reach to the brain, if they reach to the brain/lungs then death is certain? This is true even post surgery days and could even happen during entire length of lengthening if not during consolidation?

You should e-mail some of doctors listed here about that, and it'd be really nice if you shared their replies with us.

I had done a few of my own calculations on the risk of death through FES, but I'd rather not share what are estimations in a serious thread like this.

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Quote from: myloginacc on June 22, 2018, 11:15:13 AMYou should e-mail some of doctors listed here about that, and it'd be really nice if you shared their replies with us.

I had done a few of my own calculations on the risk of death through FES, but I'd rather not share what are estimations in a serious thread like this.

Good suggestion... But I think people who are undergoing the surgery or planning in very near future should take this up in person with their doctor to get better advice and also to make doctors take care of this thing especially during surgery. Please post the replies here.

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i know 2 more guys who died after LL ,LiL Peep and Xtentation,Rip homies,that surgery is so ruthless...

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Quote from: YungGud on June 24, 2018, 11:32:52 PMi know 2 more guys who died after LL ,LiL Peep and Xtentation,Rip homies,that surgery is so ruthless...

This is a serious thread. It isn't funny.

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should be noted that most FES happens with femurs, but pulmonary embolism could could happen with anyone.

The second case with vinay is very rare. he had unilateral tibias done and i don't think he died from FES, but rather pulmonary emboli that reached his heart leading to heart attack. The doctors most likely did not prescribe blood thinners to help prevent this, and the pt probably was not very healthy/active if he had a previous LL on his other leg prior to this.

you want to be in the best shape you possibly can be when it comes to stamina, strength, body fat %.
you want to get all blood work done to make sure you are very healthy.
you want to choose a very good surgeon who has a track record of success when it comes to CLL
you want to make sure your doctor will prescribe blood thinners post LL or else dont choose him as your surgeon,.
you want to make sure you are as active as possible post LL. You want to try to keep your legs moving even when you are laying on the bed. You do not want to get blood clots in your legs due to immobility post surgery. This is called DVT and the blood clot from the legs can go to the heart or brain (pulmonary embolism)


also it should be noted that there has not been a case of someone dying from CLL in the united states. Also hundreds of thousands of LL surgeries are done every year due to LL discrepancies and deformities

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Quote from: MirinHeight on June 25, 2018, 02:54:30 AMshould be noted that most FES happens with femurs, but pulmonary embolism could could happen with anyone.

The second case with vinay is very rare. he had unilateral tibias done and i don't think he died from FES, but rather pulmonary emboli that reached his heart leading to heart attack. The doctors most likely did not prescribe blood thinners to help prevent this, and the pt probably was not very healthy/active if he had a previous LL on his other leg prior to this.

you want to be in the best shape you possibly can be when it comes to stamina, strength, body fat %.
you want to get all blood work done to make sure you are very healthy.
you want to choose a very good surgeon who has a track record of success when it comes to CLL
you want to make sure your doctor will prescribe blood thinners post LL or else dont choose him as your surgeon,.
you want to make sure you are as active as possible post LL. You want to try to keep your legs moving even when you are laying on the bed. You do not want to get blood clots in your legs due to immobility post surgery. This is called DVT and the blood clot from the legs can go to the heart or brain (pulmonary embolism)


also it should be noted that there has not been a case of someone dying from CLL in the united states. Also hundreeds of thousands of LL surgeries are done every year due to LL discrepancies and deformities

"hundreds of thousands of LL surgeries are done every year"
Seriously!?

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Quote from: totallyred on June 25, 2018, 04:33:46 AM
"hundreds of thousands of LL surgeries are done every year"
Seriously!?

I don't know the exact # but I believe it should be around there. Dr paley himself does almost 1000 leg lengthening a year of which 40-50 are cosmetic.

There are a lot of orthopedic surgeons specialized in deformity correction but very few do cosmetic leg lengthening

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What could be the cure for FES, if blood thinners are for pe?