price wise how do the serbian locals afford LL with mitkovic, as said above monthly wages in these countries is like 400e a month.
according to stats the minimum wage in serbia is 150e a month, so say you made 200e a month, surely paying 10,000e for the operation would be on par with paleys prices if you were in the US.
i guess this is a general question for all these countries like india , russia etc. i take it the operatoin is just very expensive to them as it is to us if we payed in a 1st world country.
Quote from: KiloKAHN on September 01, 2015, 09:13:09 PMThey're always hiring on fish processors in Alaska. Most places start at $8.75 Alaska minimum wage but once you hit 40 hrs you work overtime and get a little over $13 USD hourly. If you work offshore your food and room is free, and you work 16 hrs per day 7 days a week as long as fish are coming in, so you hit overtime on your 3rd day of the week in most cases. You could save a pretty penny if you work hard for a few seasons. I was able to pay off hefty credit card bills doing it.
Quote from: Uppland on September 01, 2015, 08:25:11 PMAlso Norway has crazy high wages, get a job at an oil platform. Though right now there isn't much demand for workers I'm afraid.
Quote from: Alittletooshort on September 01, 2015, 07:11:12 PMIf you really want to do this try to move to another country, the wages in Swizerland are incredible, but the rest of europeQuote from: Blackhawk on September 01, 2015, 09:27:32 PMWorking fish processors is rough. I worked on fishing boats in AK, WA, and CA. Also rough work but better money.
Once you have a job in a western country, even internals shoudln't be a huge problem in terms of money I think.
Thank you guys for your advice,i have plan to go with student organization in april and back after 4 months to USA,becuse it's realy hard to go anywhere with Serbian passport.So i am not sure that i will get USA visa,but hope i will. 
Anyway can we back to topic?
Does your height neurosis gone after LL? Any veterans?
Quote from: Want More on September 02, 2015, 01:04:46 AMOnce you have a job in a western country, even internals shoudln't be a huge problem in terms of money I think.
Thank you guys for your advice,i have plan to go with student organization in april and back after 4 months to USA,becuse it's realy hard to go anywhere with Serbian passport.So i am not sure that i will get USA visa,but hope i will. 
Anyway can we back to topic?
Does your height neurosis gone after LL? Any veterans?
I was 164 cm, now I am 172 cm. I still compare my height with others and still put in some insoles (less than before). Not much has changed. The only thing that changed is that I feel a little better around people because I am not that short anymore. Nothing changed the way people treat me. Not more interest from girls.
And I still want to be taller...
That is why I dont understand people who want to do 5 or 6 cm. Nothing will change for them in my opinion. Not even for me and I did 8 cm. At least that is my experience.
how strange, i wore lifts to 170 before and was totally happy with my height.
Quote from: jfk on September 02, 2015, 12:17:47 PMI was 164 cm, now I am 172 cm. I still compare my height with others and still put in some insoles (less than before). Not much has changed. The only thing that changed is that I feel a little better around people because I am not that short anymore. Nothing changed the way people treat me. Not more interest from girls.
And I still want to be taller...
That is why I dont understand people who want to do 5 or 6 cm. Nothing will change for them in my opinion. Not even for me and I did 8 cm. At least that is my experience.
People want to do less because of bio-mechanics, proportions etc. Proportions is not just about looks but how your body functions e.g femurs that are too long put a person at higher risk of arthritis. It's also how you compare to those naturally your height, say you are now 172 cm tall after LL but your knees are now as high as a guy who is naturally 180 cm for example. This disproportion is more unattractive than a guy who is shorter than average as he looks weird.
I remember a quote about LL saying how it's like a weapon that when used well it is invaluable but when used incorrectly has devastating long term consequences as we can't go back and do less once consolidated.
In my opinion, 50% of problems with height are real, 50% psychological. After a single surgery, a person could gain from 5 to 8 cm, which is not a lot, but these extra cms will give to that person the boost to overcome his problems (both real and psychological). Obviously, if a man is 160-165 cm he's really short, but I wrote in another post: if you feel short, you'll be short FOREVER, even if you are 190 cm tall!
For me, +8 cm means to become 173-174 cm tall... and that will be absolutely enough for me at the moment: at this height a man is not short and, if he wants to look taller, he can use small lifts in particular events (a night in a club, a marriage, job interview, ecc...) 
There is no difference between 164 and 172 cm because you just go from very short to solid short, you re still short
Someone who is 183 cm and gain 5 cm will move from strong average to tall, the benefits are more noticeable
Quote from: theuprising on September 02, 2015, 12:36:53 PMPeople want to do less because of bio-mechanics, proportions etc. Proportions is not just about looks but how your body functions e.g femurs that are too long put a person at higher risk of arthritis. It's also how you compare to those naturally your height, say you are now 172 cm tall after LL but your knees are now as high as a guy who is naturally 180 cm for example. This disproportion is more unattractive than a guy who is shorter than average as he looks weird.
I remember a quote about LL saying how it's like a weapon that when used well it is invaluable but when used incorrectly has devastating long term consequences as we can't go back and do less once consolidated.
I dont have any bio-mechanics problem nor any proportions problem. And not an arthritis problem...
You say a disproportionate person is unattractive but I think as long as it is not extreme no one will notice.
But I tell you what is definitely unattractive: Being short.
People here on this forum always talk about how it is not possible to go back and do less.
But I would like to go back and do more 
Quote from: endomorphisme on September 02, 2015, 01:11:43 PMThere is no difference between 164 and 172 cm because you just go from very short to solid short, you re still short
Someone who is 183 cm and gain 5 cm will move from strong average to tall, the benefits are more noticeable
Yes that could be true. Any veteran here who could tell us more about that?
Quote from: microman on September 02, 2015, 12:32:19 PMhow strange, i wore lifts to 170 before and was totally happy with my height.
Good for you! But I would never feel really happy with my height unless I have really good height.
Of course I feel better with 172 cm. But lets be honest. It is still short.
With 180 cm I could say I am happy with my height 
With shoes that would be 6 feet. That is a good height!
Good for your career, good for girls, good for everything
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