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Posted on Aug 5, 2017, 1:42 am
#521

Prove it real patient , you don't fool me, simple like that. I'll make my the surgery with him next couple months I do trust my life on his expertise and experience with nothing to atone.

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Posted on Aug 5, 2017, 9:02 am
#522

helloworld, Auron, Yagan, Four Inch, Krp1, Antonio, Bohemia, Crimsontide, SnD, glenn, aboali, nomad, shortdarkandhandsome
have diaries here and had good results.
Musicmaker (friend of me and of Auron and many others) had many complications, which realpatient is referring to.

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Posted on Aug 5, 2017, 10:42 am
#523

Quote from: realpatient on August 05, 2017, 12:00:54 AMAuron don't mislead the guy. You know there are patients with very bad results even your friends so don't do this
Dr. Monegal is currently the best option in Europe for LL and if you consider how cheap it is I'd say he is the best option in the world. Why don't you stop creating accounts and accept that you have lost your little war? It's been 2 years, about time you move on with your life.
Quote from: helloworld on August 05, 2017, 09:02:55 AMhelloworld, Auron, Yagan, Four Inch, Krp1, Antonio, Bohemia, Crimsontide, SnD, glenn, aboali, nomad, shortdarkandhandsome
have diaries here and had good results.
Musicmaker (friend of me and of Auron and many others) had many complications, which realpatient is referring to.
I second this.

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Posted on Aug 7, 2017, 7:22 pm
#524

Quote from: Body Builder on August 03, 2017, 11:01:02 AMEmbolism due to atl?
This mad surgery has plenty of drawbacks but I really didn't think it could cause embolism as it is generally safe.
If you are right then I have anorther reason to hate that surgery.  Dr Alex Monegal (Barcelona, Spain) Clinica Diagonal

It was a study by Dr. Catagni on percutaneous achilles tendon lengthening and he reported one death due to thromboembolism. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the study anymore, maybe you'll have better luck.

Quote from: deniscef on August 05, 2017, 01:42:19 AMProve it real patient , you don't fool me, simple like that. I'll make my the surgery with him next couple months I do trust my life on his expertise and experience with nothing to atone.

Be VERY careful with Dr. Monegal.

Quote from: realpatient on August 05, 2017, 12:00:54 AMAuron don't mislead the guy. You know there are patients with very bad results even your friends so don't do this

I wonder why they are like that, Auron is supposed to have already gone back home so I don't know why he is doing this. Is it because he still needs the doctor for removal? I wonder...

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Posted on Aug 7, 2017, 10:14 pm
#525

Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on August 07, 2017, 07:22:38 PM
I wonder why they are like that, Auron is supposed to have already gone back home so I don't know why he is doing this. Is it because he still needs the doctor for removal? I wonder...
Your comments are usually very good, LL SouthAmerica.
But I do not know what you mean with "why they are doing that".
Auron is saying that Dr. Monegal is the best option and that is certainly true. I accept that you can argue if Dr. Rozbruch, Dr. Baumgart or Dr. Monegal is the best surgeon, but for somebody who does consider money as a criterion, the best option would certainly be Dr. Monegal.
Did Dr. Monegal have a patient, that did not have good results so far, "yes"! But unless you show me experienced CLL doctor who had no such patient, I think we can all (except for realpatient) agree that Dr. Monegal is the best option.

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Posted on Aug 8, 2017, 2:43 am
#526

Quote from: helloworld on August 07, 2017, 10:14:04 PMYour comments are usually very good, LL SouthAmerica.
But I do not know what you mean with "why they are doing that".
Auron is saying that Dr. Monegal is the best option and that is certainly true. I accept that you can argue if Dr. Rozbruch, Dr. Baumgart or Dr. Monegal is the best surgeon, but for somebody who does consider money as a criterion, the best option would certainly be Dr. Monegal.
Did Dr. Monegal have a patient, that did not have good results so far, "yes"! But unless you show me experienced CLL doctor who had no such patient, I think we can all (except for realpatient) agree that Dr. Monegal is the best option.

First of all, Dr. Monegal is not and will never be the best option as we all know. The price should not be the biggest concern in this surgery. Bad cases are the result of chance and many other factors, and as you said all doctors with experience have had complications. It is not the fact that Dr. Monegal has had bad cases, but rather his attitude towards them. I have spoken to many prospective and current patients of Dr. Monegal and he has some very unethical attitudes as many users in this forum have once said. However, what is most worrying is the fact the many of his patients behave like a cult saying "Dr. Monegal is the best of the world" when it is not the case. I know that Dr. Monegal doesn't allow patients to speak negatively of him in the forum and actually makes them post only positive aspects about him, which he does indeed have.

I know that Auron has already finished LL which is why I wonder why he still behaves like that as if speaking about Dr. Monegal as a god might get him some benefit. Of course, I will not argue any further in this matter because the people who told me that would not like that I speak of their current problems. I think my word is important to me, and I am not telling lies to cause damage to Dr. Monegal but sometimes this cult-like behaviour is too exaggerated for me to bear.

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Posted on Aug 8, 2017, 7:17 am
#527

I created a Whatsapp group for Dr. Monegal current and former patients, seperate from this forum.
This is private group, where Dr. Monegal has no access to, so we share everything about Dr. Monegal there. And of course I know about some bad stuff. So for me and every other patient Dr. Monegal is just a good doctor, nothing like a God, nor did I see that expressed here.
However, everybody, including Musicmaker, and including multi-millionaire patients, would go to him again, if they were to do LL, and Yagan is actually doing just that.
What you could do to find out, is to send a private message to each Monegal patient - there are a lot here- and ask, if they were to recommend him.

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Posted on Aug 8, 2017, 9:25 am
#528

So all the cult members are accessible through this app know.

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Posted on Aug 8, 2017, 11:00 am
#529

Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on August 08, 2017, 02:43:02 AM

I know that Auron has already finished LL which is why I wonder why he still behaves like that as if speaking about Dr. Monegal as a god might get him some benefit.

As a god? Please. Is your dictionary so narrow that you can't express yourself with the right words?

I've finished LL and I still recommend Dr. Monegal as a doctor. Why? Well, maybe because he has done a fabulous job with my legs and having had my last surgery in march I am already able to run. Look at helloworld and all the exercises he is able to do. I've yet to see any LLer capable of doing what he does. Sure, you can turn a blind eye to all of Monegal's best cases but the fact is that he is having a tremendous sucess with his patients, even as one of the cheapest doctors.

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Posted on Aug 8, 2017, 4:27 pm
#530

Quote from: LLSouthAmerica on August 08, 2017, 02:43:02 AMFirst of all, Dr. Monegal is not and will never be the best option as we all know. The price should not be the biggest concern in this surgery. Bad cases are the result of chance and many other factors, and as you said all doctors with experience have had complications. It is not the fact that Dr. Monegal has had bad cases, but rather his attitude towards them. I have spoken to many prospective and current patients of Dr. Monegal and he has some very unethical attitudes as many users in this forum have once said. However, what is most worrying is the fact the many of his patients behave like a cult saying "Dr. Monegal is the best of the world" when it is not the case. I know that Dr. Monegal doesn't allow patients to speak negatively of him in the forum and actually makes them post only positive aspects about him, which he does indeed have.

I know that Auron has already finished LL which is why I wonder why he still behaves like that as if speaking about Dr. Monegal as a god might get him some benefit. Of course, I will not argue any further in this matter because the people who told me that would not like that I speak of their current problems. I think my word is important to me, and I am not telling lies to cause damage to Dr. Monegal but sometimes this cult-like behaviour is too exaggerated for me to bear.

The reason for Auron to speak good is he's visiting Helloworld in Barcelona and probably wants from the doctor. Don't trust these patients. They are manipulated.

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