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Posted on Jul 26, 2021, 10:25 pm
#91

I’ve seen plenty of the recent diaries for betz, and it seems like he’s pretty good. From what you all have gathered, does he seem like a very good choice? I see the benefits being the weight-bearing nail, however the downside is that clicking can be painful for some. Thoughts on choosing him?
Thanks

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Posted on Jul 27, 2021, 2:16 am
#92

The downsides are that clicking is a nightmare and follow-up care is minimal. But he is a good surgeon and do your own research and become VERY well-informed about anatomy and PT, it can be good. I am a former Betz patient.

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Posted on Jul 27, 2021, 4:14 pm
#93

Could you further describe how clicking was a nightmare? It seems that for many the only downside to betz is the clicking.

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Posted on Jul 27, 2021, 9:33 pm
#94

The leg has to move in a very unnatural position, and it's very painful. Read the diaries. Once it's over, it's a big relief and for most it gets easier one day and then easier and easier thereafter. The first few weeks are hell, though, and scary.

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Posted on Jul 28, 2021, 12:04 am
#95

I would never give so much money for an obsolete nail which is a torture to use and a very old and controversial doctor.
I really can't understand how some people are thinking.
There are people who even consider ridiculously expensive butchers like Guichet for their doctors and end up crippled or mistreated and come here searching for other doctors to fix them while yhey would have gone to these doctors from the begining.

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Posted on Jul 28, 2021, 4:51 am
#96

Quote from: growthPlz on July 27, 2021, 04:14:16 PMCould you further describe how clicking was a nightmare? It seems that for many the only downside to betz is the clicking.

It's not a nightmare for everyone. For me clicking was super easy. During the 8 months I stayed in Germany for my LL, II'd say clicking was painless  for most patients (let's say 95% or more of them). The problem is that when is NOT, it's really bad - you may need anesthesia to click.

But this is very rare. I only remember two cases in my 8 months there (and I met every single Betz patient there during this time).

And I'm taking about the old Betzbone. With the current one the clicking is much easier.

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Posted on Jul 28, 2021, 5:58 am
#97

I needed clicking under anasthesia and when I was in the hospital I saw another person who needed it. Its not at all rare. Some people can never click at all. It has happened. Even body builders cry when they click. I know of one such case. And a friend of mine cried and screamed while
Clicking. This lasts for weeks and then disappears like magic.

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Posted on Jul 28, 2021, 3:49 pm
#98

Disappears like “magic” however sounds excruciatingly terrible before, was that worth it inchesmatter?

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Posted on Jul 28, 2021, 6:33 pm
#99

I think so. For most, it is worth it. I haven't met or spoken with anyone who didn't think so. All the Betz patients I know are very happy.

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Posted on Aug 5, 2021, 12:48 am
#100

Quote from: inchesmatter on July 28, 2021, 05:58:49 AMI needed clicking under anasthesia and when I was in the hospital I saw another person who needed it. Its not at all rare. Some people can never click at all. It has happened. Even body builders cry when they click. I know of one such case. And a friend of mine cried and screamed while
Clicking. This lasts for weeks and then disappears like magic.

It is still rare. It happens but not often. Thus, it's rare (check the meaning of the word rare in the dictionary...)
As I said, I knew two cases of patients who needed clicking under anesthesia, but only two cases in 8 months meeting EVERY Betz patient in Germany.
For the most Betz patients clicking is either painless or very little pain (more of a soreness than real pain).

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