Dr Betz Complications! Nail/Screws Break and Require More Money and Surgery

One of the reasons i considered Betz was because Apotheosis was able to work while he did his LL.

Now that we know Apo is advertising Betz I am starting to think that his working while LLing is a scam.
Maybe by work he meant sitting on his lazy ass and scamming LL hopefuls on old forum .

I really like how there r some smart guys out there. Sometimes I think to myself that " come on… it can’t be that bad" but then when u continue to see things that don’t tie in then u r left confused and really bothered.

Thanks for picking up why we don’t see many Guichet diaries.

I don’t blame Apo for promoting his business but he is doing it the dodgy way.

He is really doing his best to ensure that we don’t hear about other internal nails.

I have also just realized that Jamal's patients seem not to be updating their diaries  ha aha ha ahaha haha. Surely the guy does more cosmestic LLthan the 1 diaries we see crop up from him once a year!

Now that he wants or already has business with Dr Donghoon (or Lee) we start hearing about him and a detailed  diary also pops up and it turns out that the guy has something like 12 patients currently doing femur LL with precise.

I have learnt that in LIFE there is no smoke without fire.
not long ago all diaries where either Dr Sarin's or Betz. once in a while he would add  a different doctors diary lol.
Why, becuase he has/had business with these 2 doctors.

Now that he has business with Dr Siringari, there has been 3 or more diaries (some of them FAKE) from that doctor.

Why, because he has business with them.

I can assure u that he is trying to do business with Donghoon so early next year there will be many many diarries from the Dr.

He said he would even build a guest house for that doctor to bring prices down. Why ..out of his own good will!!!.....f*&%k   that crap.

Building a guesthouse out of the goodness of his own heart is complete crap! He's such a fraud and liar! 

I disagree about Apotheosis doing business with Donghoon . The reason why is Donghoon already does surgery with the PRECICE and he is developing that new nail X-Tend so he has no need for Apotheosis and the Betzbone. Plus Korea is a rich country obsessed with technology where people can afford the high price-high tech PRECICE instead of the old tech-lower price leg ratcheting of the Betzbone.

On the other hand you have doctors in India like Sringari who need the Betzbone to attract patients who want that low price internal nail option. I'm sure there's other doctors in India that Apotheosis is trying to make money from by geting them the Betzbone so they can offer internal lengthening for cheap.

Maybe he'll even through in building a guest house to seal the deal 

I know we are mad at sysop and we some pretty drastic reasons to be pissed off. However, lets just stick with finding his real name and where he is. This way he can be held accountable by patients who are physically disfigured by doctors he had on his stupid 'endorsed list' and those who he made a commission off of.

But as for the actual doctors themselves, lets separate that. What if this 'Betz nail' is actually a good thing? We dont know. Let not write it off as a credit to us as patient just because sysop makes a cut off it.

If we can independently prove its good, we can tell Dr Betz it had nothing to do with sys and not to give him a cut from our patients.

Hey guys,

I'm joining this website from the old forum. I've been a member there for quite a while, and to avoid giving out who I am, I have chosen a different nickname here. I intend to follow old forum  as well, and have no intention of getting banned there - hence the privacy.

I can guarantee 100% that the information here is correct, but please don't ask in detail. SysOP is indeed trying to sell the Betzbone to other doctors. That's all I can say. He didn't deny that he made an investment, so I'm okay with it so far.. However, I was troubled by the fact that the "Complications with Dr. Betz" thread was deleted. I don't exactly remember who opened it, but a few members realized that the thread was gone. Some patients, such as TibandFemur and OldieButGoldie, have had their nails or screws bent or broken. As of today, I have lost confidence in the Betz clinic. There are many diaries from Germany, true, and I trust German people in general. I however feel that Betz is sugarcoating LL a bit. Some other doctors, such as Guichet and Paley, have a more "no-nonsense" approach. I feel safer with an attitude like that, so I've changed my course.

My suggestion for this website's admins would be this: Copy old forum 's diaries and save them. If, for some reason, old forum  is shut down, we can keep them here as backup.

Open new sections. We need 2013 updates from every doctor. Let's prepare questions and tell the doctors that we have a new website, and demand updated information.

Another website (Imtallernow) was opened when old forum A shut down the old forum before handing it over to SysOP, but that forum didn't survive. If we want this forum to survive, we need to keep it very organized.

Look at all the diaries from Dr. Betz on old forum . Basically everyone of them just end and you never hear from the patient again. The only post surgery video from Dr. Betz is Andrewshizzles and he tried to lie and hide the fact he had titanium nail replacement. I've heard so many people tell me that when they visited Dr. Betz they saw people with horrible complications that never get reported on old forum .

People who don't walk correctly even two years after surgery. People with permanent contractrues and nerve damage. Tons and tons of bent/broken nails and screws. Dr. Betz allows anyone and everyone to lengthen as much as they want and tells them to weight bear before they should. This leads to horrible problems for the patient.

I don't trust Dr. Betz and the Betzbone!

I definitely agree with ChrisIsaak.  Any good information in old forum  should be saved and be made public here in case if anything happens to old forum .  Aside from all of that Sysopotheosis fiasco, old forum  still carry more information pertaining to LL than any other place. 

Oh definitely.

I say whatever diaries we can get we take and put up here.

I also think the rules and the 'dos and dont's are also worth duplicating as it cuts down on the questions.