Dr Dror Paley (Florida, USA) Paley Advanced Limb Lengthening Institute

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Was his email invalid??I tried to contact him by email shown in this thread but Paley turned a blind eye to me

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Try this e-mail: [email protected]

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Got a consultation scheduled and paid for later this month, one email said the "EOS and Lab Fees" were $500 and then another said the consultation with Dr Paley the next day is $750. Seems a bit pricey for a consultation but to my understanding he's the best in the business and should be worth the money, does this sound right? Of course I'm talking with the secretaries but feel like it's good to ask unbiased sources too. Thanks!

Also going into it, what questions/concerns would be good to ask in order to make the most of my time and money during the visit? Here's what I have so far that I haven't been able to find in much detail on the forums and information pamphlets:

-shortest possible timeline to 100% functionality for folks that do everything right (I know that depends on a lot)
-activities with stryde (swimming?)
-places to live nearby
-Medications used and concerns about them (cost and side effects)
-getting an FAA medical certificate after surgery (this is a requirement to work as a professional pilot)

Found the answer to a couple of my questions from reading this extensive information pamphlet:

http://paleyinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/Cosmetic-Stature-Lengthening-FAQs16-1.pdf

No the consultation fee isn't included in the total costs listed, doesn't say how much it's supposed to cost in the pamphlet and the way it reads, it sounds like they used to do both the EOS and the interview in the same day.

Looks like you can get financing on your own but there's a 10-grand deposit for the surgery and it can only be booked 2 months in advance with the deposit required at the booking and the rest due two days prior to surgery.

There's also some info on how to stretch and some do's and don'ts to best prepare. The timelines seem vague and I'd like to know more specifics about nutrition and lifestyle.

Starting to look like I'm gonna see about just getting tibia or femurs depending on which seem relatively shorter and what Dr Paley recommends etc. From the .78-.82 tibia-femur ratio given I think I may be a perfect candidate for the 5cm tibia only option (based on my rough measurements with a tape measure), I'll have to wait and see. I initially wanted the full 10cm simultaneous operation but 197-grand up front is a bit much right now.

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^meant to say femur only option, but again I'll have to wait.

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Just did my consultation with Dr. Paley today. The experience was very informative and helpful and here's what I got out of it:

The consultation is totally worth it and will give you a much better feeling of what to expect and what life is going to be like. It will also give you your exact measurements/health status and therefore an idea of how well suited you are for various options. The staff was very frank, down to earth and helpful. They didn't try to sell the procedure nor discourage something I wanted. The overall vibe was that Femur only procedures are the simplest and safest, best bang-for-buck and require the lightest therapy but no matter what it's a huge process and they are strict about their protocol. They added that they don't give any guarantee about length gained, but rather progressive goals that are updated throughout the process. From their experience, the exact ratios don't really effect the overall appearance or functionality much at all, and that overall health, timeline, and budget should take priority in making a decision.

The weight bearing and reliability of Stryde is a total game changer, making the recovery process much better . The physical therapy area was legit and the staff knew what they were talking about. I got a 100% safe vibe from the place and would have no problem trusting my heath to them.

For me, my blood and bone health looked great, my flexibility tests turned out about average overall with a bit above average in the Achilles (thank god), good for either tibial, femur, or both and I have about the following measurements and ratios: 34.5cm Tibia, 44cm Fibia ~.784t/f = tibia low end of the normal ratio. 171cm total height of which almost exactly 50% is leg so low end of normal range. These are some example options:

5cm T/5cm F = .81t/f, ~52.5% l/h, 181cm/5'11.25"

6cm F only= .69t/f, ~51.7% l/h, 177cm/5'9.69"

5cm T only= .9t/f, ~51.1% l/h, 176cm/5'9.29"

All in all very reassuring to hear that I don't have any major issues. It was good to feel the reality of it to see if it is really something worth doing and how it should be done.

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Quote from: ProjectBeanstock on August 01, 2019, 09:15:52 PMJust did my consultation with Dr. Paley today. The experience was very informative and helpful and here's what I got out of it:

The consultation is totally worth it and will give you a much better feeling of what to expect and what life is going to be like. It will also give you your exact measurements/health status and therefore an idea of how well suited you are for various options. The staff was very frank, down to earth and helpful. They didn't try to sell the procedure nor discourage something I wanted. The overall vibe was that Femur only procedures are the simplest and safest, best bang-for-buck and require the lightest therapy but no matter what it's a huge process and they are strict about their protocol. They added that they don't give any guarantee about length gained, but rather progressive goals that are updated throughout the process. From their experience, the exact ratios don't really effect the overall appearance or functionality much at all, and that overall health, timeline, and budget should take priority in making a decision.

The weight bearing and reliability of Stryde is a total game changer, making the recovery process much better . The physical therapy area was legit and the staff knew what they were talking about. I got a 100% safe vibe from the place and would have no problem trusting my heath to them.

For me, my blood and bone health looked great, my flexibility tests turned out about average overall with a bit above average in the Achilles (thank god), good for either tibial, femur, or both and I have about the following measurements and ratios: 34.5cm Tibia, 44cm Fibia ~.784t/f = tibia low end of the normal ratio. 171cm total height of which almost exactly 50% is leg so low end of normal range. These are some example options:

5cm T/5cm F = .81t/f, ~52.5% l/h, 181cm/5'11.25"

6cm F only= .69t/f, ~51.7% l/h, 177cm/5'9.69"

5cm T only= .9t/f, ~51.1% l/h, 176cm/5'9.29"

All in all very reassuring to hear that I don't have any major issues. It was good to feel the reality of it to see if it is really something worth doing and how it should be done.

Did he require a psychological evaluation? One thing I'm wondering about is if a patient does femur (and achieves a decent height) and then maybe 10 years later does tibias.

I imagine such a patient would be questioned about his motivations to do another leg lengthening after achieving a decent height. It'd be for proportions/biomechanics though.

Though I'm getting vibes that even having a really long femur doesn't mess up your biomechanics? It still seems like having more even femurs/tibias could help with biomechanics.

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http://paleyeurope.com/en/contact/
Paley Institute has an office in Europe; is it also for LL procedure?

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Quote from: awatim on January 20, 2020, 12:00:12 PMhttp://paleyeurope.com/en/contact/
Paley Institute has an office in Europe; is it also for LL procedure?
There's a page on the site that lists what they treat;  I don't see that listed.

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Quote from: awatim on January 20, 2020, 12:00:12 PMhttp://paleyeurope.com/en/contact/
Paley Institute has an office in Europe; is it also for LL procedure?

I don't think they will provide the same amount and quality of care as in Florida. Even patients in Florida must feel worried if Paley is going to be flying around the world all year for surgeries (while being away from patients in West pam beach)

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Quote from: awatim on January 20, 2020, 12:00:12 PMhttp://paleyeurope.com/en/contact/
Paley Institute has an office in Europe; is it also for LL procedure?
Indeed they do surgeries in Europe