Dr. Giotikas seems like the best option for me, but I'm concerned

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Quote from: Sigma on April 23, 2023, 10:56:41 PM@DanishViking You wrote the same article in different posts...Another one of the same.It's very clear and obvious that you don't sponsored it.In all your posts you tell people not to go to Turkey and surgeons there. It's a bit like a customer fight. I am a person who hates Turkish butchers, but success rates are much higher than gliokas. Patients with mere butcher dr Halil buldu are x5 times that of patients with giotikas. Also, while there are many companies in Turkey, very few in Greece. If we look at the death and disability rate, even the butcher dr Halil has a higher success rate. Also, there are no deaths. You can have surgery to the doctor you want, and you can create a diary here. But you don't have the authority to tell people which doctor to go to and which method to have surgery. The only example you gave with Turkey is dr Halil buldu diaries in this forum or those who went to butchers like Dr Yuksel Yurttas diaries and became disabled. There are a lot of people on this forum who don't get crippled by not posting a diary. These are not proofs. We are also sorry that people who died after surgery to dr giotikas could not create a diary. Also what you said about the lon method makes me laugh. You write things like don't be a lon to people and you don't even have proof. Your only proof is 1-2 diaries or theses. G-nail / precice2 whatever can't carry 100% weight. Most people are afraid that it will break when weight, and it means wasting your money. Also, the risk of bone infection is the same with lon. (I'm not talking about surface and pin root infections) So the fact that the lon method is 0.6 more risky doesn't change anything. Also, if giotikas was doing lon, you would defend it. He just wants to make more money, that's all. Also, don't generalize.  "All western surgeons say so" "not all western surgeons recommend lon" How many western surgeons do you know? How many of them don't recommend lon? How many thousands of doctors in Europe and how many of them do not recommend lon? 5 of them? All you're doing is generalizing and giving people false information. You are poisoning people with false information. I understand you want to advertise your doctor giotikas or or you asked him to give you a discount on the surgery but false information is very dangerous. Do not do this. Don't talk about things you don't know.

Doctors and companies to avoid
1- Athensbjr - Giotikas
2- Livelifetaller - Halil buldu - Sedat
3- Wannabetaller - Yunus
4- Yuksel Yurttas
5- Limblengthening-center - Serkan Gurcan
6- Lengthening Turkey - Fatih arslanoglu
7- AFA - Mustafa uysal
8- Stay away from countries like egypt - iran - india - greece - armenia - russia

When you say stay away from all these countries,you mean that there are more bad doctors than good ones or do you suggest completely against doing ll from there?

I'm planning to go with Dr.Parihar in the future....what do you think about him?

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Parihar is the only good doctor in India, since he has trained with parley, who is the most experienced surgeon in the world in this field. The others not naming any are known pretty much only as butchers according to paley and many other members on this forum.

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Quote from: LG1816 on April 23, 2023, 07:43:04 PM
As far as I can tell, the person sadly died of fat embolism seven days after surgery, and no one seems to be able to deduce whether it was the fault of the surgeon or just a total fluke -- that incredibly rare scenario we've all heard about that can happen with any surgeon.

One thread contains the info that he was fasting during the procedure. Was this patient a Muslim, who was fasting because of Ramadan? Muslims usually deny taking any oral medications during this time.

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Op, value your health. Don't go to giotikas. He isn't experienced.

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Quote from: Antonio111111 on April 30, 2023, 11:16:35 AMOp, value your health. Don't go to giotikas. He isn't experienced.

Giotikas is almost most experienced active cosmetic LL doctor in Europe (maybe just after notorius Guichet). He has been doing cosmetic LL surgeries already what 10 years?

With Giotikas you are in safe hands.

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Antonio. You clearly no nothing about leg lengthening since you asked on a different forum if the precice nail can weight bear, so please don't talk. Give som value arguments, facts and statistics instead of your personal unlogical opinion.

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Quote from: Hatch on April 30, 2023, 01:21:47 PMGiotikas is almost most experienced active cosmetic LL doctor in Europe (maybe just after notorius Guichet). He has been doing cosmetic LL surgeries already what 10 years?

With Giotikas you are in safe hands.

i respectfully disagree. See below.

Quote from: DanishViking on April 30, 2023, 05:59:15 PMAntonio. You clearly no nothing about leg lengthening since you asked on a different forum if the precice nail can weight bear, so please don't talk. Give som value arguments, facts and statistics instead of your personal unlogical opinion.

Yes i asked about the weight the nail can bear. Because I was clarifying something from Paleys document itself. Dont mix the two mate.

You want facts and logic? Giotikas diaries show many with misaligned bones. Top docs would argue that alignment is very important eg donghoon, paley etc. Misaligned bones put stress on joints. Plus one of giotikas patient died.

If this was a small ear surgery, i'd pay the lower fees, take the risk and go to some cheaper doctor. The worst case isn't that bad.

But you are forgetting that THIS is a big surgery and death can happen. I personally WAS going to go with giotikas until i saw the misaligned bones and then a death. That was the end point for me. You have to see facts objectively and then form your own opinion around it. I'm pretty sure if the same guy went to Paley, he'd be alive right now. How can i say that? look at the huge number of surgeries Paley has done and not a single death? Think.

Remember the dead cant speak up against any mistake that the doctor MIGHT have done. So it's survival bias.

LG1816, I personally would not send myself nor my family to go to giotikas. He is NOT that experienced as many other doctors. Let the results in mis-alignment/death speak for itself.

If you or anyone wants to bear the risk, up to you. I gave my personal opinion. Please dont let the cheap price convince you to overlook facts.

If you go with him, and come out healthy, great, I am happy for you.

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"Giotikas diaries show many with misaligned bones" - Again no evidence or sources. Send me some links. Multiple other surgeons throughout the EU according to different people here on this forum as also have at least 1 death... Whatever you won't listen to logic and facts, but just one or two people had a bad experience. And you still deny that Precice 2 isn't weight bearing. This has to be a joke lol. Also you literally the only one on this forum caring about ITB release more than you should...

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3922.0

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One diary that had TSFs think it was Z something his name was, he had surgery with Giotikas and he was misaligned

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Please give me a source.