Price is kind of steep but if he can secure financing options then it would really change things. Imagine getting Precice 2 for 20,000$ down maybe even 0% interesting for 1 year (time for recovery).
It would probably be better than a regular private loan since it would be a specific Limb lengthening loan
I remember Dr Parihar telling me that you should go to orthopedic surgeons who are at the top of the pyramid in the Ilizarov specialty for cosmetic limb lengthening, simply because you want someone who has seen and treated it all, what with all that can go wrong in this procedure. Because of that, it's more than a little off putting to me when a doctor decides to make the cosmetic focus of limb lengthening his primary business, especially when he's been doing this on his own for only 2 years. It doesn't seem like this doctor would ever refuse a prospective patient who had the money, and part of a surgeon's skill is knowing when not to operate on someone. Personally, I'd feel a lot better going to someone who primarily treats injuries and deformities, like Paley or Rozbruch.
Quote from: KiloKAHN on November 06, 2017, 04:59:52 AMI remember Dr Parihar telling me that you should go to orthopedic surgeons who are at the top of the pyramid in the Ilizarov specialty for cosmetic limb lengthening, simply because you want someone who has seen and treated it all, what with all that can go wrong in this procedure. Because of that, it's more than a little off putting to me when a doctor decides to make the cosmetic focus of limb lengthening his primary business, especially when he's been doing this on his own for only 2 years. It doesn't seem like this doctor would ever refuse a prospective patient who had the money, and part of a surgeon's skill is knowing when not to operate on someone. Personally, I'd feel a lot better going to someone who primarily treats injuries and deformities, like Paley or Rozbruch.
Agreed.
WTF is with the mass hysteria over this doctor? Didn't any of you morons take math class in elementary school? That's obviously a rhetorical question on this thread...
The guy said he's done 550 cases of lengthening. Approximately 100 for cosmetic.
Now, for some of you this is where the math gets difficult, try real hard to follow along. First, wipe the drool off your chin. Ok, good. Brace yourself, here we go.
Pull out that space machine brought to us by the aliens. It's called a calculator. Type 100, then press the division sign, then type 550, then press the equal sign. You should get 0.18 repeating. Write that down. Now take your pencil and move the decimal over two spaces to the right. It will look like this 018. For the grand finale put a percentage symbol at the end. It will look like this 18%. Yay! You did it, congratulations! You are all very SPECIAL!
18% of his patients are cosmetic, or to put it another way. 82% of his patients are being treated for medical reasons.
According to the posters on this thread whose combined IQ can barely reach today's temperature in Las Vegas, he only does cosmetic surgery, he's money grubbing, he's a disgrace to the profession, blah blah blah...
Lucky for all of you that posted this garbage, height can be increased. Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid!
Quote from: Dr. Sarcastic on November 06, 2017, 07:35:45 PMWTF is with the mass hysteria over this doctor? Didn't any of you morons take math class in elementary school? That's obviously a rhetorical question on this thread...
The guy said he's done 550 cases of lengthening. Approximately 100 for cosmetic.
Now, for some of you this is where the math gets difficult, try real hard to follow along. First, wipe the drool off your chin. Ok, good. Brace yourself, here we go.
Pull out that space machine brought to us by the aliens. It's called a calculator. Type 100, then press the division sign, then type 550, then press the equal sign. You should get 0.18 repeating. Write that down. Now take your pencil and move the decimal over two spaces to the right. It will look like this 018. For the grand finale put a percentage symbol at the end. It will look like this 18%. Yay! You did it, congratulations! You are all very SPECIAL!
18% of his patients are cosmetic, or to put it another way. 82% of his patients are being treated for medical reasons.
According to the posters on this thread whose combined IQ can barely reach today's temperature in Las Vegas, he only does cosmetic surgery, he's money grubbing, he's a disgrace to the profession, blah blah blah...
Lucky for all of you that posted this garbage, height can be increased. Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid!
are you a shill? lol
18% is a comparatively large chunk compared to other doctors, and there's no doubt the cosmetic aspect is something he's focused on increasing, otherwise why make a name for it (Limbplastx) and a series of videos marketing it specifically? It's not out of the goodness of his heart, it's because there's a market he wants to tap into. That 18% will become higher and his non-cosmetic percentage will drop since there's only so many surgeries one man can perform.
Quote from: KiloKAHN on November 06, 2017, 07:57:35 PMIt's not out of the goodness of his heart, it's because there's a market he wants to tap into.
Greedy and unskilled, we've seen plenty of. But if Dr. Debiparshad (or any doctor) is skilled and has good bedside manners, I actually don't mind as long as I get results. But of course, there are comparable doctors that also have an altruistic glimmer in their heart, and they'd get my vote. I don't think most care as long as their needs are taken care of.
I also wonder why his strategy is such a bad idea as well, since (admittedly less invasive) cosmetic procedures have transitioned from obscurity to becoming the main draw of a practice. A lot of it had to do with marketing, using less scary and/or memorable names for procedures. The influx of money into this niche will bring in more competition and innovation. Maybe in 15 years we'll see billboards for "leg jobs."
Quote from: Android on November 06, 2017, 08:42:07 PMGreedy and unskilled, we've seen plenty of. But if Dr. Debiparshad (or any doctor) is skilled and has good bedside manners, I actually don't mind as long as I get results. But of course, there are comparable doctors that also have an altruistic glimmer in their heart, and they'd get my vote. I don't think most care as long as their needs are taken care of.
I also wonder why his strategy is such a bad idea as well, since (admittedly less invasive) cosmetic procedures have transitioned from obscurity to becoming the main draw of a practice. A lot of it had to do with marketing, using less scary and/or memorable names for procedures. The influx of money into this niche will bring in more competition and innovation. Maybe in 15 years we'll see billboards for "leg jobs."
I don't necessarily think there's a right or wrong way to look at it, but I think it's actually more beneficial for this surgery to be harder to achieve than easier, financially. By making CLL easier to achieve, the amount of people who regret it will climb exponentially, whereas if it remains something that most people have to work up to financially, the more time they have to research, make smart decisions, and really decide if it's something they want to commit to. The doctors who promote more of the cosmetic aspect of this surgery or have assembly line patients seem to be the ones who downplay the permanent drawbacks that this leads you with, like diminished strength, stamina, balance, chronic pains, etc, and that's why there are many who wouldn't have had the procedure if given a second chance. Considering we still don't have any data on the long term affects of CLL patients years down the line, it's probably not a good idea to market this surgery to as many people as possible. Who knows, a direct correlation between CLL and muscle degeneration or osteoarthritis could be proven later. So when this doctor says he hopes CLL becomes a "trend" later, that's a very worrying statement, imo.
Also, in the video of "How Much Height or Length Can a Person Gain With Limb Lengthening?", he decides to only bring up a situation of someone with dwarfism and says there's theoretically no limit. Sure that's true in their case, but not so for people who don't have that condition, people who he's marketing this procedure to. So why would he not be up front and say something like "2 inches in tibiae and 3 in femurs max, between two surgeries." Is he worried that people will decide it's not worth it for just that amount? Would he even inform the prospective patient not to go over those lengths, or would he let them push to 13 cm on tibiae like Dr Salameh did for a patient?
I mean anyone can disagree with me, but I just don't like the way this guy markets this.
Very good points. Luckily the procedure is quite cost-prohibitive, so at least for the moment we won't have many cases with impulsive patients. Hopefully the severity and frequency of complications lower as methods and technique improve over the years.
The doctor does indeed cherry pick his example, claiming a six inch gain on a colleague. I don't doubt him, but more detail about the patient like starting height would be helpful. A disclaimer that it's an exceptional result wouldn't hurt either. The disregard for recommended maximums is definitely negligent.
Many of us here have become desensitized by the surgery videos, but I'm sure that it'll freak most people out. Honestly, rhinoplasty videos freaked me out too (former girlfriend wanted to do it, got curious), but I guess the dream that's being sold with simple before and after photos are enough for many to pull the trigger. The exceptionally long, grueling process of CLL is definitely not exposed in these videos, and its omission can be considered misleading for sure.
How any of you don't walk into on coming traffic on the highway everyday is a miracle given your lack of intelligence. If you want the best service, the best results, at the best price, then more competition is the answer, not less. Competition will drive down prices as customers shop for the best deal, competition will produce the best results as that is what is demanded by paying customers, doctors who don't provide the service or results that customers demand will be out of business. Good riddance...
What this really sounds like to me is short guys pissed off that 5'9-5'10 guys are now getting limb lengthening to be 6'0+ cause the technology is so much better than it was just a few years ago. Too bad b*tches! When PRECICE 3 cobalt chrome comes out you're totally f*cked!
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