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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 12:43 pm
#11

Quote from: TheManlet1994 on December 17, 2016, 09:37:49 AMShe told me she would only date a guy 6'
She was only 5'4.
She was "cute". A type of girl I would bring home to my parents.

If you're being serious (not sure if trolling), then the only place you'd want to bring her is a trash can. Deciding on LL because of this is just super beta behavior. Good luck anyways.

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 1:20 pm
#12

Quote from: Dozer on December 17, 2016, 12:39:01 PMProfile -> Account settings -> Name

To answer your question, yes embolism risk should be lower with externals as "installing" them is less invasive then nailing.

Possible risks are as you mentioned, minor pin site "infections" (inflammations actually, they never should get to infection status if you properly being monitored by the Dr or by yourself if you will, it's not hard to detect inflammed pin sites). Then you usually use anti-inflammation and antibiotic creams on that particular pin site until inflammation goes away. That was always enough for me and I've spent in externals about 2 years. Rarely it should get to a point where you'd need to take oral antibiotics or remove/replace the pins.

Then there's risk of valgus/varus deformities . Internals lengthen along the anatomic axis so usually you won't get any deformities, however some minor (in rare cases not minor) deformities are still possible with internals due to nails bending from what I've seen on x-rays, and my Doc confirmed that they have "bad valgus" (or varus - I don't remember). You also can't fix these deformations with internals. But with externals IF (because not all Drs are good with deformity corrections, though Solomin/Kulesh are quite good - the have a lot of female patients fixing valgus/varus deformities and they also use hexapods, which can be used at the end of the lengthening phase to correct, if they occur, complicated deformities) you go to a good Doc he should be able to completely straighten the bone with the external frames and also hexapod installation if needed, however it's not always possible, so you may be left with minor valgus/varus still. Also, with externals you can account the change in knee axis (mechanical axis) if you lengthen your femurs and adjust accordingly so your knees are 90 degrees else you run a risk of developing arthritis in the future. With internal femur lengthening you're going to throw off your mechanical axis almost guaranteed, even though they're considered "absolutely superior" here on the forums.

Pin bending and breakage also happen. Though I never had any pins break in 2 years, but they ALWAYS bend, however this is always accounted with external lengthening and changes are made accordingly. Plus replacing a broken pin is a very simple and cheap process. If your internal nail breaks (quite a few cases here on the forums you can find) you're fked.

This is what I can remember on top of my head and are the most important points.


thanks for your response man, I appreciate it. That helps a lot

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 1:23 pm
#13

Quote from: Dozer on December 17, 2016, 12:43:31 PMIf you're being serious (not sure if trolling), then the only place you'd want to bring her is a trash can. Deciding on LL because of this is just super beta behavior. Good luck anyways.


I'm doing it because it took a toll on my confidence and self-esteem. I'm a perfectionist and have height dysphoria now and believe that LL is a way to get my confidence back.
Once again, thank you man

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 3:28 pm
#14

Quote from: Big Daddy on December 17, 2016, 07:24:58 AM"I am 5'10.5-5'11" said TheManlet1994:


External Tibias and embolism risk


This forum gets even worse than /r/short.

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 4:12 pm
#15

Quote from: Big Daddy on December 17, 2016, 07:24:58 AM"I am 5'10.5-5'11" said TheManlet1994:


External Tibias and embolism risk


lmfao, so the 5'6-5'7 dudes (incl. myself) completely justify their case on getting the surgery we so desperately need. Feels like mental torture everyday...the inferiority complex is gigantic and tall girls make us feel trash beta male. Wonder what situation OP be like if he was in the 5'6 range... being unsatisifed around the 5'11 mark is just unbelievable (there shouldn't be any issues at all at that range). If any girl rejects/ cheat on you because of just a bare inch or so off of 6ft, she's a moron especially she being only 5'4.

Goes to show even the shorter girls are wanting men not just "taller than them". I bet 75% of girls see short men exactly the same way as some guys see fat women. It's sad but true and I've been seeing memes on this (and all other sorts as well).

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 6:15 pm
#16

Quote from: Desktopx on December 17, 2016, 04:12:03 PMGoes to show even the shorter girls are wanting men not just "taller than them". I bet 75% of girls see short men exactly the same way as some guys see fat women. It's sad but true and I've been seeing memes on this (and all other sorts as well).


If you look through this forum and /r/short stories then yes.

But the reality is way different doe.

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 7:16 pm
#17

Quote from: Premedlegs1994 on December 17, 2016, 09:37:49 AMhey man thank you. Yeah I know it sounds bad because there are a lot of shorter guys in here, but we are all fighting our own demons.
I never used to care about my height or anybody else's height. I believe we are all equal in God's eyes and have the power to do whatever we want to in this world if we work hard enough.

But I met a girl 2 1/2 years ago and fell for her hard. I believe im an attractive guy and smart (premed; taking mcat in Jan) but this girl wasn't the "hot" types. She was "cute". A type of girl I would bring home to my parents. So I started talking to her. We became friends and hung out for 3 months and then we started talking about relationships, etc. She told me she would only date a guy 6' (she thought I was 6 feet tall). I was honest with her because thats the type of person I am. I told her I am 5'10.5. She couldn't believe it and told me I at least had to be 6 feet tall. I said I am pretty sure im 5'10.5. She said, "maybe you grew after HS or something".

I ended up dating this girl for a year and half. I fell for her so hard man. Like she was the one for me. I told my mom about her and I never tell my mom about girls in my life. She ended up cheating on me with her 6'2 guy crush from HS back in the day. I met the guy she cheated on with me at my university. He was in my discussion group. After class, he told me "some things in life you can't control man. She always tells me how much she finds my height attractive, and how much better it is than your height." I gave him the one-two and broke his jaw. And walked home in the rain even though I had my car in the parking lot.

I used to be a confident guy. I've lost it now. I used to be fit. 177 pounds 14% bodyfat benching 305 pounds for max. Now I'm 200 pounds and havent worked out ever since.

I loved this girl a lot and I haven't gotten over it. She was only 5'4. I feel like I can get my confidence back and feel a little better about myself getting to 6'-6'1. That's all man.


External Tibias and embolism risk

This might be the most pathetic thing I ever read in this forum. A 5'11 """""manlet""""" who is going to get his legs broken in a foreign country (and then go through weeks of pain, permanent loss of athletic capacities, money, etc...) cause a b*tchy girl cheated on him with a taller guy.

What if you meet a girl who is into black dudes? (or into white dudes, if you are black). Gonna get a skin grafting? What if you meet a girl who is into... girls? Are you going to pull a Caitlyn Jenner just to be "good" enough for her? And don't tell me she was "the one". There is no such thing as "the one". And if there was, it would not be that stupid girl, for f*ck sake.

You have an excellent height, dude. Forget that b*tch. Forget this surgery. Go back to the gym ASAP. Get out of that bodybuilding forum and similar toxic pages until you are able to understand that those "5'11 vs 6'2" memes are the creation of ugly lanklets and not a reflection of reality. Live your life, there is no reason to let your (good) height hold you back.

tl;dr: have some respect for yourself.


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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 10:36 pm
#18

Are you 179 cm in the morning or night? Dong get angry, but you crush is a fool. Do this for you, that human being doesnt worth it. Good luck with the surgery.

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Posted on Dec 17, 2016, 11:45 pm
#19

Quote from: Dozer on December 17, 2016, 12:39:01 PMProfile -> Account settings -> Name

To answer your question, yes embolism risk should be lower with externals as "installing" them is less invasive then nailing.

Possible risks are as you mentioned, minor pin site "infections" (inflammations actually, they never should get to infection status if you properly being monitored by the Dr or by yourself if you will, it's not hard to detect inflammed pin sites). Then you usually use anti-inflammation and antibiotic creams on that particular pin site until inflammation goes away. That was always enough for me and I've spent in externals about 2 years. Rarely it should get to a point where you'd need to take oral antibiotics or remove/replace the pins.

Then there's risk of valgus/varus deformities . Internals lengthen along the anatomic axis so usually you won't get any deformities, however some minor (in rare cases not minor) deformities are still possible with internals due to nails bending from what I've seen on x-rays, and my Doc confirmed that they have "bad valgus" (or varus - I don't remember). You also can't fix these deformations with internals. But with externals IF (because not all Drs are good with deformity corrections, though Solomin/Kulesh are quite good - the have a lot of female patients fixing valgus/varus deformities and they also use hexapods, which can be used at the end of the lengthening phase to correct, if they occur, complicated deformities) you go to a good Doc he should be able to completely straighten the bone with the external frames and also hexapod installation if needed, however it's not always possible, so you may be left with minor valgus/varus still. Also, with externals you can account the change in knee axis (mechanical axis) if you lengthen your femurs and adjust accordingly so your knees are 90 degrees else you run a risk of developing arthritis in the future. With internal femur lengthening you're going to throw off your mechanical axis almost guaranteed, even though they're considered "absolutely superior" here on the forums.

Pin bending and breakage also happen. Though I never had any pins break in 2 years, but they ALWAYS bend, however this is always accounted with external lengthening and changes are made accordingly. Plus replacing a broken pin is a very simple and cheap process. If your internal nail breaks (quite a few cases here on the forums you can find) you're fked.

This is what I can remember on top of my head and are the most important points.


This is exactly why I chose externals. As you mentioned, the consensus on this forum is that internals are superior, but given the reasons you listed I don't understand why. To each his own I suppose.

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Posted on Dec 18, 2016, 12:00 am
#20

Quote from: Whereintheworld? on December 17, 2016, 11:45:19 PMThis is exactly why I chose externals. As you mentioned, the consensus on this forum is that internals are superior, but given the reasons you listed I don't understand why. To each his own I suppose.


Plus there's always a fair chance of permanent knee pain with internal tibias. Just not worth it. Anyone heard of the hybrid external fixator? Supposed to be the improved more modern version of the traditional. Btw OP, you do realize you're taller than about 80% men in the world (above average in almost every country except netherlands and a select few other europeon countries). Be happy and content with your fantastic height. We 5'6-7'' guys would die for your height (my goal below being 180 cm).

And know that these kind of girls account for less than 1%, your routes are still open to >99% chicks to whom your height would seem immaculate.

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