LOL Before it used to be the case that if you couldn't pay your debt, they would break your legs. Now you want to break your legs before paying your debt!
Quote from: Antonio on October 19, 2019, 08:32:27 PMLOL Before it used to be the case that if you couldn't pay your debt, they would break your legs. Now you want to break your legs before paying your debt!
Lmao
I think the worst cost about this surgery is the time cost and the missed opportunity cost.... Maybe I'll write a book while I'm lengthening
I think if you have most aspects of life set in order (good job/ good resume, friends, family), then quitting your job and taking out a loan would just help fuel your recovery financially in a good way. If you're life isn't perfect, but you made an active effort and your BEST effort and not just lazy effort to improve everything in life, I'd say you're still a good candidate for LL. Noticed a trend of software engineers in Silicon Valley quitting their job and doing LL and easily being able to recoup the loss. Unfortunately such a job is limited to only a percentage of the population and most people aren't as fortunate to be able to get such a high income job with easy re-employement at such a young age.
If height is really affecting you in such a way that you feel like you're not gonna change your neurosis anytime soon (talking, years), I would say take out a loan. If you're in your early to mid 20s, this is undoubtedly the best time to get LL, you recover much much better. Late 20s early 30s is also good. Once you start hitting late 30s, I would imagine you can never forgive yourself for waiting until you were that age, your prime years are long gone, and now you're still stuck with this height neurosis. Not much point in sufferring an extra 10 years for almost no reason and still being unsatisfied afterwards because you chose to not do LL.
The way I see it, loans can be repaid, youth can't. If you are truly upset about your height to the point where you feel like you can do so much more with a few extra inches, get the damn loan and worry after. If you're unemployeed or a NEET or hikikomori and you blame height and want to get LL, I guarantee you that you not be happy post-LL. Get your own life in order first, get a loan, and post-LL use your debt to fuel the fire in improving your income and paying it off.
Don't waste 10 years pondering whether to get LL or save money first, try therapy and if it's useless then get the loan and go forward with the surgery.
All you have to do is save enough money so that WITH a loan + your savings you will have enough money to go pay the surgery fees and housing for a year and a like 30k extra for potential complication surgeries. The second you hit this mark in savings, go for it.
I agree. Do it now.
I did my on my late 20's, early 30's and my ONLY regret is that I didn't do it earlier.
I had known about LL for more than 10 years before I did but I had bought the mainstream idea that was just in my head.
It wasn't and all the heightism problem went away after I got my LL.
I'd say if there's a loan with Low interest for this then sure go ahead and get it, but if not It's good to learn how to make enough money to get this surgery, use it as motivation to make money that's what I did... I learned about LL when I was about 17-18 and ever since then I really wanted to do it I mean it was my obsession every dollar I'd make, I'd say Great, I'm closer to my surgery and being taller. It definitely does help being as young as possible when you get it. I luckily had made enough money in my shortish life time at the age of 23 to afford top quality service, my only regret is not getting it sooner as well. lol
Quote from: Movie on April 27, 2020, 07:59:03 AMI'd say if there's a loan with Low interest for this then sure go ahead and get it, but if not It's good to learn how to make enough money to get this surgery, use it as motivation to make money that's what I did... I learned about LL when I was about 17-18 and ever since then I really wanted to do it I mean it was my obsession every dollar I'd make, I'd say Great, I'm closer to my surgery and being taller. It definitely does help being as young as possible when you get it. I luckily had made enough money in my shortish life time at the age of 23 to afford top quality service, my only regret is not getting it sooner as well. lol
Just curious Movie what do you do? Not trying to dox you but are you an entrepeneur or something? Because I am thinking about going into software engineering and even with a 100k+ salary it'll still probably take me until 25 to save enough money... Incredibly impressive that you self funded by 23. Amazing Movie lmao
Coding is a really good field to get into right now, I'm actually learning a bit of coding myself. Yes I'm an entrepreneur I've never had a job for longer than 2 weeks and only have had 2 different jobs. I was wholesaling electronics whole 2018 and that's what made me a lot of money. it stopped due to Trump's Chine trade war since my products were coming from china.
It's a good idea to discuss these topics, I don't think anybody should put their flag in the ground on either side.
Everyones case is unique and it is a decision that ultimately must be made by the individual and regardless of the outcome they must realize the decision was theirs and nobody elses.
I understand both sides. Many could potentially realize their issues weren't height related or weren't only height related and they're left depressed and in debt which exacerbates the issue. The could stretch themselves too thinly and they're left in debt, unable to work due to complications, a bad recovery, a a bad economy and there are probably many other issues that are hard to anticipate.
Patients being forced to save for this procedure would weed out a lot of the people who were getting it thinking it would fix their life, these people often wouldn't put in the work and sacrifice required to get surgery.
On the other hand it's an expensive procedure and many may not be able to come up with the lump sum without financing. This is actually quite common, these types of things are often available to those than can afford it first and become cheaper over time.
I also understand why people want to get it as early as possible for both recovery and maximzing their return on investment.
When it comes to the surgery we have to accept the risks and decide whether they are worth it and taking on debt to get the procedure is just an additional risk to factor in for some.
There are other threads where people are discussing whether a woman should get the surgery. I agree with those arguing that it's up to the individual and they must decide for themselves and people shouldn't be intentionally dissuaded.
I would also say it is fair to point out things that the person may not have considered too, for example that as women get taller their pool for mates generally shrinks - kinda the reverse for men lol.
This isn't aimed at anyone, just putting my thoughts out there.
On a side note -
has anybody else found that after discovering LL you can become somewhat consumed by it lol? In the thread I created I mentioned I'd stumbled across it unintentionally, I am in general happy and wasn't really aware what was possible with the latest tech.
I guess it makes sense though, it's a pretty big deal if you find something that you believe could significantly improve your life and solve a potential issue that you feel holds you back from reaching your full potential (or full quality of life potential).
I took a break from all LL related topics and it was nice to disconnect for a bit. You gotta live your best life regardless - exercise, eat healthy, good friends/family/relationships, productive hobbies, be passionate, strive for success in all areas etc.
If I do decide to get LL then that's just the cherry on top or the thing that takes it to the next level. Life is gonna be good regardless though.
ghkid2019 - Remote work was starting to take off prior to the current health crisis and it's only gonna increase exponentially now. This can be a good way for a software dev to save extra money - you can leverage low cost of living in other areas / countries with high wages.
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