God had some beef with me making me 5'2 (158 cm tall)

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Delon was 177 with good proportions so it depends on a lot of factors like face, hair, body shape and frame, leg-to-body ratio and overall body proportions.

171 cm is still short though. Near average height is enough to never be perceived as having a height deficiency and it's about 175 cm minimum where the height is no longer a burden if everything mentioned above is present in a man's appearance.

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Quote from: Lennys on August 20, 2024, 02:07:50 AMMaybe more like 75%-80%, assuming that you're perfect everywhere else and non-white.

Which you're not, and neither am I, and neither is anyone else here.

What sort of retarded logic is this? Oh bro it's fine being 171cm if you're a 10/10 facially with a huge frame and a billionaire? Yeah, no sh*t , that doesn't mean '90% of women are fine with 171cm', it actually shows quite the opposite.

Only a total brainlet takes some ridiculously extreme example to try and prove a point, don't know why it's so popular online to do that. If you're 5/10 facially and 171cm, most women will not be fine with that, and that's a much more likely situation than some chiselled rich Chad who happens to be 171.

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I would like to add that no matter how handsome one is with short height for a man, he will nevertheless be viewed less of a man by majority of women out there. I'm talking about less than 170 cm guys but anything less than strong 175 cm is hurting the dating value of a man to be objective.

Take Brad Pitt for example, if he was Tom Cruise's height he would be perceived differently by women when they get to know that he's below average height. The same goes for Tom Cruise but in reverse: had he been at least average height of 177-178 cm, he would be perceived differently by women and none of them would complain of his height.

This just proves the point that shorter you are from the mean height of 177-178 cm, the more ideal you have to be in terms of face, body frame and proportions, voice, charisma, etc.

If Tom Cruise was an ordinary looking man, he would struggle a lot at 170 cm, there's no question about it. Plain and not good looking men can be saved only with at least average or above average height with decent enough body frame and proportions, otherwise they won't be able to compensate with anything.

But, yeah, below strong 5'5 everything collapses no matter how perfect a man can be visually below that height.

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Quote from: Metaphyglv on August 03, 2024, 01:30:40 AMI am quite handsome, and I have very harmonious proportions. My dad is kinda tall at 5'10 (178 cm tall) and my mom is not that short at 5'1 (154 cm tall).
Even if I was only 5'6 I could have a lot of luck with girls. How unfair.
My face:
https://imgur.com/a/RnewZob
https://imgur.com/a/ynCdNF8

I'm 24 btw, so there is no hope of growing more
Question, would you describe your environment/diet as ideal as a child to teen or poor? 'Cause genetics can go from 60% to 80% for your height, and 20% to 40% for environment. The reason why that range difference is so high because it does vary and really hard to purely determine even with statistics. What we do know is that a lot of immigrants to the US, even by just one generation are taller than their parents on average just by looking at nutritional difference. Hence why environment still matters, even if most people assume that person is eating "good" by their countries' standards, that still depends on that definition compared to first-world countries.

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Quote from: markr09 on August 26, 2024, 02:37:48 PMQuestion, would you describe your environment/diet as ideal as a child to teen or poor? 'Cause genetics can go from 60% to 80% for your height, and 20% to 40% for environment. The reason why that range difference is so high because it does vary and really hard to purely determine even with statistics. What we do know is that a lot of immigrants to the US, even by just one generation are taller than their parents on average just by looking at nutritional difference. Hence why environment still matters, even if most people assume that person is eating "good" by their countries' standards, that still depends on that definition compared to first-world countries.
Of course environment matters and nobody said it did not, but don't validate your obsession over how you stunted your own growth by even like breaking your arm during the teen like a kid preposterously claimed here three years ago by the researches about how environment matters. Some crazy people's obsession will get exacerbated by what you say here lol.

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Quote from: markr09 on August 26, 2024, 02:37:48 PMQuestion, would you describe your environment/diet as ideal as a child to teen or poor?
Not really, i had good health and a good diet. The only thing it would have stunted my growth in my teens is bad sleep. I cant think about any other thing aside of that.

Btw, my height its realated a lot with genes, both my father and mother sides of the family are made of short people, my dad is just the only exception, his mother is about 5 ft and his father about 5'5 or so. And talking about my mother, her dad was about 5'5 and her mom about 5'5 too