Height is NOT the most important thing when dating girls

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Quote from: w1988 on February 26, 2015, 02:49:07 PM5ft would be a midget, bad example. This forum is also almost entirely CLL rather than LL for necessity/disability.

If he was say 5'6 or 5'7 then definitely the brad lookalike over adrien brody. I'm 5'6" handsome as fk and I take the attention of girls from tall guys all the time especially when tall guy is ugly and sometimes even when they are average looking. I've never chatted up a girl and then lost her to a tall guy that wasn't facially attractive.

I somewhat agree with you. I used to be a little over 5'5"...and I've been told how handsome I am my entire life. I've even done some facial modeling (and have been told I could model if I weren't so short). My facial aesthetics are what saved me and still allowed me to get good looking girls ,but I still felt that I had to work harder. Perhaps it was more of a confidence issue with me, but when I was in a group of guys competing for women, I felt like my height "ruined" me in a lot of cases. I think if I were at least 5'7" I would have cared a lot less, because you're still as tall as most women...but I was very short. My online dating profiles got tons of views (they saw my face/default pic first), but only a few attractive women would actually message me, I can only assume because of my height (because my profiles were kick-ass and well written with great/varied pictures).

I think now with my facial aesthetics and extra height, i won't have any problems.

I think it goes like this:

If you're at least 5'7" --> Facial Aesthetics > Height
If you're under 5'7" --> Height > Facial Aesthetics
If you're 5'10+ with Facial Aesthetics --> God-mode activated

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 26, 2015, 03:06:45 PMI somewhat agree with you. I used to be a little over 5'5"...and I've been told how handsome I am my entire life. I've even done some facial modeling (and have been told I could model if I weren't so short). My facial aesthetics are what saved me and still allowed me to get good looking girls ,but I still felt that I had to work harder. Perhaps it was more of a confidence issue with me, but when I was in a group of guys competing for women, I felt like my height "ruined" me in a lot of cases. I think if I were at least 5'7" I would have cared a lot less, because you're still as tall as most women...but I was very short. My online dating profiles got tons of views (they saw my face/default pic first), but only a few attractive women would actually message me, I can only assume because of my height (because my profiles were kick-ass and well written with great/varied pictures).

I think now with my facial aesthetics and extra height, i won't have any problems.

yeah man, now at your height you are taller than most girls, you arent going to have any problem

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 26, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
I think it goes like this:

If you're at least 5'7" --> Facial Aesthetics > Height
If you're under 5'7" --> Height > Facial Aesthetics
If you're 5'10+ with Facial Aesthetics --> God-mode activated

i agree with you

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Quote from: KirP1 on February 26, 2015, 03:11:58 PMi agree with you

Haha yeah, this is always how I felt, and what I've observed. The biggest player I knew in college was 5'7", maybe 5'7.5", but he had super great facial aesthetics. He got girls like there was no tomorrow. The other player in our crew was 6'2", good looking as well, but not as good looking as the 5'7" guy. The two of them took most of the girls. But then again, back then, I didn't even know how to talk to girls, and also didn't hit my "stride" yet.

Quote from: KirP1 on February 26, 2015, 03:09:00 PMyeah man, now at your height you are taller than most girls, you arent going to have any problem

I hope so man! Now I think any issues that I may have are just in my head. I'm not THAT short anymore.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 26, 2015, 03:19:49 PMHaha yeah, this is always how I felt, and what I've observed. The biggest player I knew in college was 5'7", maybe 5'7.5", but he had super great facial aesthetics. He got girls like there was no tomorrow. The other player in our crew was 6'2", good looking as well, but not as good looking as the 5'7" guy. The two of them took most of the girls. But then again, back then, I didn't even know how to talk to girls, and also didn't hit my "stride" yet.

I hope so man! Now I think any issues that I may have are just in my head. I'm not THAT short anymore.

yeah man, now at your height and with great facial aesthetics the only you need is self esteem and talk to girls being sympathetic , you're going to be a heartbreaker bro!

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 26, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
If you're at least 5'7" --> Facial Aesthetics > Height
If you're under 5'7" --> Height > Facial Aesthetics
If you're 5'10+ with Facial Aesthetics --> God-mode activated

I think you nailed it.

Quote from: KirP1 on February 26, 2015, 02:54:24 PMyou are handsome as fk? this forum is full of handsome people with 140 IQ

Well I've always been told that I am handsome/cute and the fact that I still get attractive girls at 168cm is a testament to that (I've always only dated sun-kissed cute/hot blondes). I've posted pics on bodybuilding forum of my before/after and most comments were about my facial aesthetics rather than the weight loss. Also I dress most days of the week like a come out of a GQ magazine, my avatar is my pic btw. I might have exaggerated on the 'handsome as fk' maybe I'm an 8.5/10 facially.

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Quote from: w1988 on February 26, 2015, 05:38:35 PMI think you nailed it.
Well I've always been told that I am handsome/cute and the fact that I still get attractive girls at 168cm is a testament to that (I've always only dated sun-kissed cute/hot blondes). I've posted pics on bodybuilding of my before/after and most comments were about my facial aesthetics rather than the weight loss. Also I dress most days of the week like a come out of a GQ magazine, my avatar is my pic btw. I might have exaggerated on the 'handsome as fk' maybe I'm an 8.5/10 facially.

Yeah I'm pretty sure my little chart is very accurate. It's what I've seen an observed over the years. 5'6" isn't too terrible, but I was closer to 5'5", and thanks to my facial aesthetics, I still did pretty well with getting attractive women. Ironically, I tended to do better with women who were taller than me (they would always ask me out first).

I think overall, facial aesthetics is a slightly more powerful weapon than height...but if you're under 5'7", that's when you start having to work harder and your facial aesthetics won't help as much.

Another thing I hated about being short, handsome and built? Gay men checking me out...EVERYWHERE I went. I have no problem with gay men, or even them checking me out (I take it as compliment). But it was like "damn, I wish this many hot girls would eye f#ck me like that." Short gay men I would say have almost no height discrimination to worry about as far as dating is concerned.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 26, 2015, 05:46:47 PMYeah I'm pretty sure my little chart is very accurate. It's what I've seen an observed over the years. 5'6" isn't too terrible, but I was closer to 5'5", and thanks to my facial aesthetics, I still did pretty well with getting attractive women. Ironically, I tended to do better with women who were taller than me (they would always ask me out first).

I think overall, facial aesthetics is a slightly more powerful weapon than height...but if you're under 5'7", that's when you start having to work harder and your facial aesthetics won't help as much.

Another thing I hated about being short, handsome and built? Gay men checking me out...EVERYWHERE I went. I have no problem with gay men, or even them checking me out (I take it as compliment). But it was like "damn, I wish this many hot girls would eye f#ck me like that." Short gay men I would say have almost no height discrimination to worry about as far as dating is concerned.

Hey YellowSpike,

After reading a lot of your post, I can relate on so many levels (I think the same way you do lol). Your observations are very true about height and reaching the 5'8 mark. My starting height is just like yours 166cm at night after a long day, sometimes 166.5 but never lower. I hope to do 6.5-7 cm to on tibia to be a strong 5'8 and that should be good enough as I too have a lot going for me. I think being 5'8 plus with longer legs, will give off the illusion of being average. Your chart is spot on!

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Quote from: ecb1992 on February 27, 2015, 01:57:27 AMHey YellowSpike,

After reading a lot of your post, I can relate on so many levels (I think the same way you do lol). Your observations are very true about height and reaching the 5'8 mark. My starting height is just like yours 166cm at night after a long day, sometimes 166.5 but never lower. I hope to do 6.5-7 cm to on tibia to be a strong 5'8 and that should be good enough as I too have a lot going for me. I think being 5'8 plus with longer legs, will give off the illusion of being average. Your chart is spot on!

Thanks man! I'd like to think I'm level-headed (most of the time )

I don't know my exact morning and evening heights, and I'd rather not lol. One doctor measured my height around 166.5+, but that was around 10am (though I had been up for hours already at that point). Dr. Guichet and another doctor both measured me at 166cm (when standing perfectly straight) around 2pm and 5:30pm respectively (I think we hit our "night height" after being awake for like 4-5 hours, I believe, I could be wrong. Sad how I'm obsessing over this lol).

So I think I'm just about tall enough now where I can comfortably say I'm 5'8". I'm also built, but thin (I always made sure NEVER to get too big, it makes you look shorter, and it's obvious you'e compensating), and I try to wear clothes are well fitted to give the illusion of more height.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 27, 2015, 02:05:52 AMThanks man! I'd like to think I'm level-headed (most of the time )

I don't know my exact morning and evening heights, and I'd rather not lol. One doctor measured my height around 166.5+, but that was around 10am (though I had been up for hours already at that point). Dr. Guichet and another doctor both measured me at 166cm (when standing perfectly straight) around 2pm and 5:30pm respectively (I think we hit our "night height" after being awake for like 4-5 hours, I believe, I could be wrong. Sad how I'm obsessing over this lol).

So I think I'm just about tall enough now where I can comfortably say I'm 5'8". I'm also built, but thin (I always made sure NEVER to get too big, it makes you look shorter, and it's obvious you'e compensating), and I try to wear clothes are well fitted to give the illusion of more height.

Yes! I also wear fitted clothing and I'm always looking to stay on slim/cut side as getting to big really does make you look smaller.The only reason I know my morning height and night height is because I have a stadiometer lol. In a relaxed position I'm 166-166.5 night and if i'm well hydrated and not very active during the day i can measure easily over 167. Morning height is about 168.3 on the dot but quickly goes down within the first hour. I hope hitting 5'8 feels good, reading your diary gives me that much more hope! I get caught up in the numbers game too but my goal is no doubt over 173 (or 172.7)