Exist?
I want to start bodybuilding but my skeletal structure is holding me back
I dont want to spend countless hours in the gym just to have a typical "Gymcel" body
I want broad shoulders and a small waist, but my skeletal proportions will NEVER allow that
And NO i DONT want to become a meathead, i want to have the same amount like zyzz, thats my absolute limit.
Quote from: myloginacc on February 11, 2019, 01:23:31 AMI wonder if this is how we sound to normal people when we mention wanting to be taller.
why Arent you just quiet?
I have very narrow shoulders and a Broad waist which Looks absolutely feminine and non aesthetic
Quote from: epikness on February 11, 2019, 02:38:59 AMNarrow shoulders aren't genetic. As in you can actually make them wider by working out and self improving. And broad hips are more pleasing to the eye given that you sculpted your body properly.
There are definitely people who are genetically dispositioned to the golden ratio but they are very rare. I personally have never met a single one. And I have met many models including from Calvin Klein.
Height is completely genetically dispositioned. No amount of milk or exercise will change your height. Only drugs can but they have minimal effect and you cannot surpass your body limit.
This is honestly a myth, if you have narrow shoulders your Frame will never look wide
Unless you gain 80lbs of mass
Quote from: epikness on February 11, 2019, 03:53:19 PMDude it isn't. My cousin used to have narrow shoulders before he took up modeling. Now he has wider shoulders than me(193cm). He's only getting surgery because of height limitation of modeling for him.
He used to be just slightly above average face and slender body but now he is taking up face modeling(for creams) and have really broad shoulders for portrait shots. He has a 6 pack now and can easily attract girls left and right.
I get way less girls than him even though I have naturally better build than him. He tried hard and often almost collapsed due to his training. And now it has paid him off alot. He can easily get laid anytime he wants and gets girls number in clubs everywhere. While I can only get a few girls numbers in clubs.
Remember that working hard can mitigate any form of natural talent. There are genius everywhere and people who have the natural ratio. But not all of them become world-class because they end up getting surpassed by people who work very hard. There are very few things in this world that hard work cannot possibly do, but even then it can be solved by being good at another thing.
I hope that you don't try to do waist narrowing or shoulder widening surgery. There is no point in doing such a stupid thing. It won't earn more respect for you at all nor is it your lifelong dream of becoming a model.
Working out DOES NOTHING to your Frame
If you dont have a solid Frame to begin with you then you will never have a Broad Frame unless your packing on 80lbs of muscle
https://imgur.com/vZa47uv
Quote from: epikness on February 11, 2019, 04:34:15 PM
It does change man.. They are both within 40 pounds before and after.
I'm only wondering, have you ever actually tried to improve? I don't mean by working out once and calling it genetics but actually giving yourself 2 years of consistent workout?
If you did you would know that genetics are only for the lucky ones. Most people who you think have great bodies have all created them with their own sweat and blood as materials and crafted with their own two hands and legs.
ALL These guys you posted are having broader shoulders than me
My shoulderframe is to small, it WILL never look aesthetic
Quote from: epikness on February 11, 2019, 06:25:16 PMThat's the problem right there.
You give up before even trying.
How about this. Go to your local gym and work on your body and eat protein for about 2 years.
Come back to this forum and if you still aren't satisfied, I'll pay half of your surgery for you whenever they exist. I guarantee that you will probably laugh at what you used to post.
I already trained over 2 and ate Protein consistently
GENETICS<everything else
But i guess you guys will rather try to find mistakes on my diet and the way ive Train like "You ate 5 grams to less of Protein" or "You're Lifting to light" rather than accepting that your ability to Build muscle is determined by your genetics
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