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Posted on Dec 24, 2024, 5:23 pm
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Activatedxx told me he lost about 1cm to it but the numbers I saw previously were much lower. Anyone got a good number on this or a paper with stats on it?
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Posted on Dec 24, 2024, 10:48 pm
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Quote from: oklama on December 24, 2024, 05:23:18 PMActivatedxx told me he lost about 1cm to it but the numbers I saw previously were much lower. Anyone got a good number on this or a paper with stats on it?

Here's what Dr Birkholtz had to say about actual height gained compared to distraction with femur lengthening:

Quote from: Franz on March 12, 2014, 07:09:54 PMYes with exfixes we lengthen along the mechanical axis which should correspond pretty much to patient height. With femoral nails, we tend to lengthen along the anatomic axis, which might not correspond perfectly to height gain (it is oblique). It is well described too that patients end up with 5-10 mm less than expected. I would suggest going 1cm beyond target length and then backing the nail up by 5mm. This would ensure quick consolidation. The downside of long lengthenings along the anatomic axis (like with precice, guichet, betzbone, iskd), is that we change the mechanical alignment of the femur, as we lengthen along a different axis. This means that intramedullary lengthenings in the femur beyond 5-6cm will inevitably lead to slight malalignment. This may in time lead to arthritis.
In short, keep to reasonable distances and go to a doc that understands this.
Standing xrays can be taken with Precice nails with certain precautions.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=413.msg6957#msg6957
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Posted on Dec 25, 2024, 12:20 am
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Quote from: KiloKAHN on December 24, 2024, 10:48:22 PMHere's what Dr Birkholtz had to say about actual height gained compared to distraction with femur lengthening:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=413.msg6957#msg6957

This is talking about exfixes, here hes insinuating that precise will give a full height gain in femurs. has that proven true for patients?
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Posted on Dec 25, 2024, 12:24 am
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Quote from: KiloKAHN on December 24, 2024, 10:48:22 PMHere's what Dr Birkholtz had to say about actual height gained compared to distraction with femur lengthening:

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=413.msg6957#msg6957

Ignore previous post I misread, hes actually saying the opposite. thats really unfortunate. idk what to do now.
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Posted on Dec 27, 2024, 10:53 pm
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I did 8.3 cm femurs on Precice. As far as I can tell, I got pretty close to the full amount. Like at least 8cm. My understanding is that the femurs are not perfectly vertical from the ground, but the amount lost by that angle is quite minor. Someone did the math and it was like 0.15 cm if you do 8cm (although, of course, this angle is not necessarily exactly the same on a person to person basis and women, in particular, have a more oblique angle than men for obvious reasons).

I have heard of LON patients losing height as they consolidated, but never heard of this for Precice.
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Posted on Apr 14, 2025, 12:56 pm
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1 cm on femur = 0.97 cm more height (male).
1 cm on tibia = 0.99 cm more height.
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Posted on Apr 14, 2025, 1:01 pm
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If you lengthen your femur by 8 cm and your tibia by 5 cm, you will be 12.6 cm taller, not 13.0 cm.
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Posted on Apr 15, 2025, 2:43 pm
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I can confirm that the above is indeed correct.
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